Prostitution

Instant Cash · Post by **Instant Cash** » Fri May 02, 2003 6:22 pm

So how do you feel about it?

Good thing?

Bad thing?

Think it should be removed from the face of the planet?

I do not see prostitution as a bad thing. In fact I think there should be more legal, controlled brothels; like with unions and such like in .nl and Nevada.

I do not see it as objectification of women since even males can be prostitutes. If people which to make money having sex, I say, “good for you”. I wish I could get a job like that.

The floor is now open for debate.

Gunny · Post by **Gunny** » Fri May 02, 2003 6:36 pm

I also think prostitution should be legalized as in the way of brothels and such. they should be given medical insurance, unions, etc. the part I stumble across is how to make sure it's safe. should all clients be made to go through an examination days prior to the 'appointment'? should corporations be able to write a visit off on their taxes as a 'corporate meeting site'? what about protecting the prostitutes incase of abuse from client and or employeer? and then all kinds of other legal matters come tumbling into the equation. what about qualifications to be hired as a prostitute? shouldn't some kind of standard be made (specifically age and health)?

as George Carlin says, "Selling is legal. Fucking is legal. Why isn't selling fucking legal??"

FlameBlade · Post by **FlameBlade** » Fri May 02, 2003 8:26 pm

STD?

How to guarantee that no one has STD?

That's all I have to say...

Jackal · Post by **Jackal** » Fri May 02, 2003 8:29 pm

That's what the health insurace is for really. I've heard of something like that where the employees had to have constant check ups and the clients had to pass a screening test as well. Not perfect but it's suppose to be legal so no point in sneaking around.

Instant Cash · Post by **Instant Cash** » Fri May 02, 2003 8:30 pm

FlameBlade wrote:STD?

How to guarantee that no one has STD?

That's all I have to say...

Like Jackal said, the prostitue would have regular check-ups, the clients, who knows.

Anyone know if you need a good bill of health to get a prostitute these days?

MooCow · Post by **MooCow** » Fri May 02, 2003 8:36 pm

So how do you feel about it?

I feel great about. My wallet isn't so happy about it, but we don't get along much anyways.

Seriously, I see no problems with it. I agree that if it were legal you would have better policing, cleaner whores, less abuse.... It would be better for everyone.

How to guarantee that no one has STD?

Well how do you guarantee that /any/ girl/guy you meet isn't going to have an STD? Unless you make your lover go to the doctor /with/ you and make them take a blood test, you really can't know.

If it were legal, whores could go to the doctor regularly for a check up without having to worry about getting arrested. In fact, we could license them, and make them go to the doctor. To maintain their license they would have to get check ups at some regular interval. They would have to maintain a certain level of hygien. They would be able to report abusive pimps to the cops. We could help ensure they aren't on drugs, and are in fact doing this of their own free will.

A somewhat related question..... Anyone know how much a good (and clean) whore costs these days? I'm just curious, as we were having an argument today of which was cheaper... A whore or a girlfriend you just keep around for sex. I'm voting for the whore personally.

Bethyaga · Post by **Bethyaga** » Fri May 02, 2003 9:16 pm

I think prostitution is a bad thing.

But that's a moral judgement, and I don't feel like legislating my morals is appropriate in this case. Prostitution should be legalized, taxed and legislated. It is sex between consenting adults, so they should be able to do that

What has always amazed me is that if I pay a woman to have sex with me, it is prostitution and illegal everywhere but parts of Nevada. If, however, I pay her to have sex with me while I film it with the intent to sell, then I am a pornographer, and that's legal in all sorts of places.

ThatWendigo · Post by **ThatWendigo** » Fri May 02, 2003 9:43 pm

Just a note:
The porn industry already does this. Actors and actresses *tongue fimrly in cheek* are given routine check-ups, to make sure everyone is clean. If you aren't, good luck getting a company to hire you.

ratlaw · Post by **ratlaw** » Fri May 02, 2003 10:04 pm

Ironically, I saw this on news.google.com the other day:

A breathless scramble for shares in the world's first listed brothel

Oh, and I think prostitution should be legal as well. Too much of what makes prostitution the horrible social problem that it is seems to me to be a result of it bieng criminalized.

Instant Cash · Post by **Instant Cash** » Fri May 02, 2003 10:14 pm

ratlaw wrote:Ironically, I saw this on news.google.com the other day:

A breathless scramble for shares in the world's first listed brothel

Actually it was this news that sparked the conversion that made me write the thread.

Cain · Post by **Cain** » Sat May 03, 2003 3:16 am

MooCow wrote:A somewhat related question..... Anyone know how much a good (and clean) whore costs these days? I'm just curious, as we were having an argument today of which was cheaper... A whore or a girlfriend you just keep around for sex. I'm voting for the whore personally.

Most escort services in my area charge around $150-180 an hour. You can probably find the costs in the back of your local alternative paper, if you have one.

Bishop · Post by **Bishop** » Sat May 03, 2003 3:21 am

Or just look in the phonebook and call them.

Anguirel · Post by **Anguirel** » Sat May 03, 2003 3:55 am

"I love hiring a hooker whenever I go to a city for the first time and then asking her to be a tour guide for me. They know the craziest places... I mean, you're paying for their time and body. Nothing says you need to fuck 'em..."

Sowhat · Post by **Sowhat** » Sat May 03, 2003 4:40 am

Here's a list of prices in my area, in Au$, (whole website here). A girlfriend's deffinetely cheaper.

I don't see anything wrong with prostitution. Sure, they risk getting STDs, or even pregnant, but they're chosing to take that risk, and as adults, they should be responsible enough to make that decision. If someone wants money and someone else wants sex, then it seems like a pretty good idea. Both parties end up with what they want. It's perfectly legal to sleep with someone for their money without their concent, eg. a lady sleeps with a rich man who spends lots and lots of money on her, thinking that they're in love, while she's just fucking for his cash. That's legal. Wouldn't it be more moral if the man knew the lady's true feelings and wasn't being used? People sell sex every day, whether it be through prostitution or using sex to advertise. Why should anyone suddenly make it illegal now?

MissTeja · Post by **MissTeja** » Sat May 03, 2003 4:49 am

I think prostitution is a degrading practice for all parties involved. If the overall attempt is to make a moralistic type of city reputation, then it should be banned in those cities. I think my view against such practice merely stems from just my wishes that my children, when they ever come, should not have to be exposed to such an atrocity. Of course - having said that, I guess it would be my responsibility as a parent to just make sure that I didn't raise my family in areas engaging in such a legalized practice. It may have also to do with my law enforcement ties, but when I think of prositution, I think of STD's, crack whores and 16 year old runaways getting themselves into a situation they shouldn't. I guess that's just how I choose to live my lifestyle though. I try to never force my opinions on anyone, though, so as stated previously - if I didn't want to be around it, then I just move. Ayup.

Sowhat · Post by **Sowhat** » Sat May 03, 2003 4:56 am

Teja wrote:...such an atrocity

Why do you consider it an atrocity? I assume you're talking about prostitution outside of brothels as (I assume this is fairly global) only 18+ year olds can enter, and I think just as many "crack whores and 16 year old runaways" will be catching STDs from sleeping around without it being prostitution, even if there reason is for money or drugs.

MooCow · Post by **MooCow** » Sat May 03, 2003 5:00 am

but when I think of prositution, I think of STD's, crack whores and 16 year old runaways getting themselves into a situation they shouldn't.

Which is why I push for Legalization. These things would be easier to control (IMHO) if the practice were legal.

<hijack>

Here's a list of prices in my area, in Au$, (whole website here ). A girlfriend's deffinetely cheaper.

See, now I'm looking at that site and I'm thinking I have to disagree. According to that site, I can get an hour of sex for $199 Au$. Now XE.com claims that is about $125 US$. I just shelled out $110, and all I got was a kiss (It was a good kiss, but still....). Factor in the time you spend trying to make the GF happy so she'll put out, and I'm thinking a prostitute is /far/ cheaper (Assuming all you want is sex, which is what the argument was about). </hijack>

Sowhat · Post by **Sowhat** » Sat May 03, 2003 5:04 am

I guess that depends if your girlfriend loves you for your money and expects you to spend lots of money on her or not. My only boyfriend had no money, and every time we went out I had to buy dinner, etc. I didn't cost him much.

But in general relationships don't need to cost money.

sinsual · Post by **sinsual** » Sat May 03, 2003 5:36 am

A Waikiki hooker will cost you about $300 an hour with limits to just straight sex(kinkier sex will cost more), a Merchent st. (downtown Honolulu) hooker will run you about $150 an hour no holes barred. The quality of hooker is not so much different (as in health, looks and such) but the ownership is. The ones in Waikiki mostly pander to the Japanese (I have watched them walk right up to a Japanese man holding hands with his wife and solicite them) They are also pretty much controlled by one entity. At the time I lived directly in Waikiki there were a rash of prostitute deaths by knife attack. All of the girls were found to be independants but "nothing could be proved" and the attacker was never fingered. The hookers in downtown Honolulu can be either underworld controlled or independants, usually the independants are the streetwalkers with the "family" owned ones being int he brothels...how can you tell the brothels? the Gorillas wearing Armani suits standing on both sides fo the doors to stores that are closed on the first floor with blacked out windows on the second and up floors.

This has been an FYI...

As to my opinion I think legallized would benefit many of the women and I am sorry but in my opinion the Porn industry is simply legalized prostitution. It will also benefit many of the underworld organizations that currently run the illegal brothels. They already have doctors that take care of the girls, they will continue to do so but could very easily becoem a new means of "legal" money laundering...just MHO

DV8 · Post by **DV8** » Sat May 03, 2003 7:31 am

I live in a country where prostitutes - men and women alike - have their own union, under which they get medically examined at an extremely regular basis, get health insurance, have work-environment standards, etc. So yeah, I suppose I'm okay with it.

...but, then again, I'm a hypocrite; I'm alright with it, as long as anyone I hold dear doesn't do it, since I still think it's an emberassment, and I am definitely am not big enough of a man to ignore the feeling of jealousy I'd feel if my girlfriend would work in that industry. So, I think I should gently shut up now.

MooCow · Post by **MooCow** » Sat May 03, 2003 10:47 am

...but, then again, I'm a hypocrite; I'm alright with it, as long as anyone I hold dear doesn't do it, since I still think it's an emberassment, and I am definitely am not big enough of a man to ignore the feeling of jealousy I'd feel if my girlfriend would work in that industry. So, I think I should gently shut up now.

I don't think that makes you a hypocrite. I think Garbagemen are fine, but I wouldn't want a loved one to be one.

Daki · Post by **Daki** » Sun May 04, 2003 3:16 am

DV8 wrote:...but, then again, I'm a hypocrite; I'm alright with it, as long as anyone I hold dear doesn't do it, since I still think it's an emberassment, and I am definitely am not big enough of a man to ignore the feeling of jealousy I'd feel if my girlfriend would work in that industry. So, I think I should gently shut up now.

*Gunny here

I don't think that makes you a hypocrite Deev. it's not like prostitution is a 'normal' job or a morally accepted job. I think it's sweet that you wouldn't want to share your girlfriend with anyone else even if it is legal work. but that's just IMO. I wouldn't be able to separate myself either from the job and the personal.

Anguirel · Post by **Anguirel** » Sun May 04, 2003 3:52 pm

DV8 wrote:I live in a country where prostitutes - men and women alike - have their own union, under which they get medically examined at an extremely regular basis, get health insurance, have work-environment standards, etc. So yeah, I suppose I'm okay with it.

Now it's time to demonstrate my ignorance. Yay!

Even with prostitution legally available, are there still strip clubs and other "not quite prostitution" industries around? This leads into my next question...

...but, then again, I'm a hypocrite; I'm alright with it, as long as anyone I hold dear doesn't do it, since I still think it's an emberassment, and I am definitely am not big enough of a man to ignore the feeling of jealousy I'd feel if my girlfriend would work in that industry.

What would you allow your girlfriend to do? How much sharing is allowed between her and her job's responsibilities? Is it just sex? Would stripping be ok? Softcore porn industry? Could you handle marrying an ER doctor who was out of the home constantly and at odd hours? Business woman in a time-critical position who is usually on-call (work can jump in at any time and must be given priority over just about anything)?

Instant Cash · Post by **Instant Cash** » Sun May 04, 2003 7:36 pm

Sowhat wrote:Here's a list of prices in my area, in Au$, (whole website here).

Interesting, men are more expensive. Must be a supply/demand issue.

Anguirel wrote:What would you allow your girlfriend to do? How much sharing is allowed between her and her job's responsibilities? Is it just sex? Would stripping be ok? Softcore porn industry? Could you handle marrying an ER doctor who was out of the home constantly and at odd hours? Business woman in a time-critical position who is usually on-call (work can jump in at any time and must be given priority over just about anything)?

Actually I was going to make a separate thread about this at some point but I might as well state it here.

Would you have a problem with someone you care about stripping, doing porn, hooking, whatever?

I could date a stripper, I know because I have. Have a long meaningful relationship? Probably not; But for a casual sex type relationship it worked great.

A hooker I would have to say no only because I do not mind people looking, but no touchy.

Porn? Same type pf thing, softcore but hardcore is a bit much for me. Unless it was a one night stand or something.

MooCow · Post by **MooCow** » Sun May 04, 2003 8:27 pm

Would you have a problem with someone you care about stripping, doing porn, hooking, whatever?

Fundamentally, I /think/ I could date a stripper. I don't have any problem with someone being a stripper, it's a job just like any other. Whether in the long run I could make a meaningful relationship work.... No idea really.

I know thta I could never date a hooker or porn star. Just not in my nature.

PMWrestler · Post by **PMWrestler** » Mon May 05, 2003 12:15 am

Here's my question on the whole issue. Say laws are enacted to allow legalized prostitution. With all of the costs involved w/ medical screening and regulation, cost would increase, because of taxes imposed by the government right? So if the legalized prostitutes would end up costing more.
SO, the 16 year old run-away's, and drug addicts, who are /already/ breaking the law now as prostitutes, would continue to ply thier trade, and for a cheaper price, to beat out the competition. So would a law legalizing prostitution be all THAT much more beneficial?

Cain · Post by **Cain** » Mon May 05, 2003 12:47 am

Here's my question on the whole issue. Say laws are enacted to allow legalized prostitution. With all of the costs involved w/ medical screening and regulation, cost would increase, because of taxes imposed by the government right? So if the legalized prostitutes would end up costing more.

Yes and no. Part of what prostitutes are paid for is the risk of being arrested, and the illegal nature of their work makes it more valueable. And when we add the costs of jail time, lawyer fees, and the rest-- who's to say which would be cheaper?

The costs linked to above seem to be somewhat cheaper, when converted, than the standard costs in the US. We'd probably need to adjust for regional cost-of-living as well, but I think the prices are close enough that we can say legalization didn't increase the prices significantly.

PMWrestler · Post by **PMWrestler** » Mon May 05, 2003 3:03 am

It's very true that jail time, legal fees, and all of that would increase the cost to one which would exceed the cost of a regulated industry, and the bureacracy needed to run it. But if a john was so inclined to pay for one of the illegal hookers, the unregulated ones, and in doing so breaking the law...I don't think he would be considering legal fees and jail time, because if he was seriously considering getting caught as a probable option...would he be commiting the crime?

ak404 · Post by **ak404** » Mon May 05, 2003 3:50 am

MissTeja wrote:I think prostitution is a degrading practice for all parties involved. If the overall attempt is to make a moralistic type of city reputation, then it should be banned in those cities. I think my view against such practice merely stems from just my wishes that my children, when they ever come, should not have to be exposed to such an atrocity.

It continues to be a great source of amusement for me when people - even the ones who claim to step away from the moral straitjackets of religion - place a higher-than-monetary-value on copulation yet ignore all the other questionable ways of getting sex. I mean, sex is great, but you still gotta work for it, right? What if you're not in a relationship and you feeling like fucking anyways? Aside from porn and masturbation, what's the alternative? A singles bar? A club? How can someone say prostitution is degrading yet shrug when they're faced with the scene of two drunk strangers going over to whoever's place to fuck? What, does the booze give the sex moral strength whereas offering $200 for an hour is just evil? Or what about those assholes who lie their asses off to a girl and take advantage of her need for companionship just to get into her pants? OK, admittedly, she's got to loosen the belt to prove she loves him, but it's all right, I guess because nobody's exchanged money.

Me, I'm of the idea that sex is the ultimate form of trust (even if prostitution should be legalized and guidelines formed to protect all parties involved, if only to end the spectre of Puritanical sexual revulsion), but let's play the devil advocate here, OK? What so bad about getting straight to the brass tacks and simply spouting off your personal appraisal of a professional practitioner of...erm, negotiable affection in monetary terms? You don't want to be this person's friend, you don't want to see them again (maybe: repeat customers are good), you just need sex and it so happens this person is a professional, why not?

Sex in itself has no inherent value except to pass one's genes along. All the worth cultures and religion have placed on sex - the weddings, the virginity, the monogamy, the double standards - stem from that, and that alone. You fuck, you come, you make sure you know whose son this kid is, and that's it. The romance, the closeness, the vulnerability issues, the spiritual aspect, that's not part of the prostitute's equation, really, and people who pay for sex don't want those things and if they're sensible, they'll realize you can't buy that shit anyways (you actually have to work for it). They want the pleasure of sex: on a purely physical level, it's just about the best thing that can be had without software and a manufacturing plant.

I mean, I dunno...maybe I missed the boat. Maybe I was on a train and I missed the fucking boat, but what is so bad about forking over cash for sex? It would certainly help for those who can't get laid - like the hopelessly social inept or just plain fugly.

MooCow · Post by **MooCow** » Mon May 05, 2003 10:03 am

Or what about those assholes who lie their asses off to a girl and take advantage of her need for companionship just to get into her pants?

You say that like it's a bad thing......

It would certainly help for those who can't get laid - like the hopelessly social inept or just plain fugly.

Why do you think I support legalization?

Gunny · Post by **Gunny** » Mon May 05, 2003 3:37 pm

ratlaw wrote:
A breathless scramble for shares in the world's first listed brothel

damnit... I wanted to buy stock in that brothel!! I wonder if we can still get some shares at a low price.... Daki?

Daki · Post by **Daki** » Mon May 05, 2003 4:03 pm

*Cringe* Investing in foreign markets makes me want to cry. Not only do you have to factor in foreign exchange rates, but the trading window for that stock is f'd up due to the time difference. Brokers who handle accounts like that seem to want to charge his fees for the services too. Considering it still falls in the range of a junk stock, most brokers won't trade it yet.

Bethyaga · Post by **Bethyaga** » Mon May 05, 2003 4:35 pm

ak404 wrote:It continues to be a great source of amusement for me when people - even the ones who claim to step away from the moral straitjackets of religion - place a higher-than-monetary-value on copulation yet ignore all the other questionable ways of getting sex.

Is someone doing that here, or are you just speaking in general terms?

I, for one, have not mentioned anything other than prostitution, because prostitution is what the topic is about.

I agree with you that holding such views would be hypocritical.

Bethyaga · Post by **Bethyaga** » Mon May 05, 2003 4:43 pm

PMWrestler wrote:Here's my question on the whole issue. Say laws are enacted to allow legalized prostitution. With all of the costs involved w/ medical screening and regulation, cost would increase, because of taxes imposed by the government right? So if the legalized prostitutes would end up costing more.
SO, the 16 year old run-away's, and drug addicts, who are /already/ breaking the law now as prostitutes, would continue to ply thier trade, and for a cheaper price, to beat out the competition. So would a law legalizing prostitution be all THAT much more beneficial?

Tobacco is legal in this country and HIGHLY taxed. There is an illicit trade in cigarettes, but it is relatively minor compared to other contraband.

What would tobacco related crime (and other societal costs) be like if we outlawed tobacco entirely?

My thought is that if prostitution were legal in the US, then prostitution related crime would drop significantly, and the savings in enforcement and legal costs as well as the increased tax revenue would more than offset any increased bureaucratic expense. There would still be some illegal prostitution and related crime, but much reduced.

PMWrestler · Post by **PMWrestler** » Mon May 05, 2003 5:38 pm

Tobacco is legal in this country and HIGHLY taxed. There is an illicit trade in cigarettes, but it is relatively minor compared to other contraband.

I see where you're going with it, but your example is kind of flawed. People usually aren't selling tobacco to put food in thier mouths, (and/or drugs up thier nose in this case), so it's not really the same.

It also seems to me that most prostitutes, or at least my stereotype of them, are doing it for drugs, or have various STD's, and basically wouldn't make it under the new system. True a percentage of people may decide to become prostitutes if it was legalized, but it seems the vast majority of existing street-walkers wouldn't pass most of the STD tests, and would continue to ply thier trade.

Instant Cash · Post by **Instant Cash** » Mon May 05, 2003 6:11 pm

PMWrestler wrote:It also seems to me that most prostitutes, or at least my stereotype of them, are doing it for drugs, or have various STD's, and basically wouldn't make it under the new system. True a percentage of people may decide to become prostitutes if it was legalized, but it seems the vast majority of existing street-walkers wouldn't pass most of the STD tests, and would continue to ply thier trade.

Chat with the Prostitues in legal areas and see how many are doing it for drugs.

In vegas I know they police illegeal prostituion pretty hard.

Cain · Post by **Cain** » Mon May 05, 2003 6:11 pm

You're referring to street walkers, which has been a declining segment of the prostitutes for a while now, especially here. A lot of places have gone over to a call girl or escort service model. Besides which, where do you get your numbers from? Many of the street walkers I knew were ultra-paranoid about getting an STD.

And people do sell tobacco to put food in their mouths. Most convenience stores make a good deal of their profit off of tobacco; and there are Smoke Shops that only sell tobacco and tobacco products.

Gunny · Post by **Gunny** » Mon May 05, 2003 6:13 pm

that's almost a given. there's a saying that I've come to live by. you get what you pay for. and if you're willing to shell out a scant amount of money for an obviously cheap hooker, you get what you pay for... STDs, trigger happy pimp and all.

PMWrestler · Post by **PMWrestler** » Mon May 05, 2003 6:21 pm

Well I don't know any prostitutes, like I said, I was just going by the stereotype. I'm not to well versed in the subject, I was just throwing my two cents in. And to equate a store selling tobacco to make money, and put food on the table, to a hooker selling her body for food, is kind of ludicrous.

FlakJacket · Post by **FlakJacket** » Mon May 05, 2003 6:25 pm

Not really. Both examples are selling a service or product for financial renumeration and to make a profit.

PMWrestler · Post by **PMWrestler** » Mon May 05, 2003 6:29 pm

Not really. Both examples are selling a service or product for financial renumeration and to make a profit.

See, the differance is in the word profit. The prostitute I was referring to is selling her body for food. She's doing it for sustinance, not profit.

Kwyndig · Post by **Kwyndig** » Mon May 05, 2003 6:31 pm

Um, if a store doesn't make a profit, and you own it as your only avenue of finances, you aren't getting sustenance.

PMWrestler · Post by **PMWrestler** » Mon May 05, 2003 6:33 pm

I can see the comparison everyone is trying to make. But I don't see it as the same thing at all. I guess if you want to go to an extreme and compare my example to a bankrupt smoke shop which only sells tobacco and isn't turning a profit, then it's the same thing. But getting to that level is just arguing for the sake of arguing. Not to prove a point.

FlakJacket · Post by **FlakJacket** » Mon May 05, 2003 6:35 pm

PMWrestler wrote:See, the differance is in the word profit. The prostitute I was referring to is selling her body for food. She's doing it for sustinance, not profit.

Ah, well I was refering to another one. I think we're probably thinking of different things when the term prostitute is used.

PMWrestler · Post by **PMWrestler** » Mon May 05, 2003 6:37 pm

I guess I should have been more clear. Sorry bout that

Bethyaga · Post by **Bethyaga** » Mon May 05, 2003 7:49 pm

PMW--I see where you're coming from, but I really think you are working with an image that is more stereotype than reality. In any illicit business, you will have some people who do it as big money business and others who do it hand-to-mouth just to get by. If you want to use illegal cigarettes as an example, there's organized crime groups that boosts a whole truckload of tax-free smokes and sell 'em discount to the public and make a big profit on it. But then there's also the homeless kid who lifts two cartons of Winstons from the Pac-n-Sav and sells them to his neighbors for food and drug money.

There really isn't a difference in that sense except that one involves sex and has a lot more visibility. Just because you have an easier time empathizing with the underage druggie runaway hooker doesn't mean the underage runaway petty thief isn't just as much a victim of society and just as needy and pathetic.

Serious Paul · Post by **Serious Paul** » Mon May 05, 2003 10:03 pm

There's a reason its the second oldest profession...

PMWrestler · Post by **PMWrestler** » Mon May 05, 2003 11:31 pm

Yeah, I'm pretty sure I said before that my image came from stereotype, but I'm too lazy to go back and check, so I'll just assume I didn't. I really don't know too much about the subject, so I guess I just assumed the stereotype was true, sorry for wasting everyone's time with that. Apparently it seems there are some people who frequent the board who are pretty well versed in prostitution?

And it sounds kind of cold, but I don't empathize with either of the two examples. No matter what the circumstances, they both broke the law. They both deserve to go to jail, no matter what thier circumstances are. They can get the help they need through our legal system, however flawed it is.

MooCow · Post by **MooCow** » Mon May 05, 2003 11:34 pm

They can get the help they need through our legal system, however flawed it is.

Unfortuantly, by and large, they can't. Not that I have a better alternative, besides killing them.

Serious Paul · Post by **Serious Paul** » Mon May 05, 2003 11:36 pm

What? You fuck three hookers and I am an expert? Jeesh...I mean... Say as a side note can any one give any sort of reliable guesses at how much legalized prostitution would cost to implement and how much revenue it might generate?