Bulldrek v3.0

Marius wrote:

Buzzed wrote:Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: 2.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.72

Heh heh. You're a frickin' communist.

I think they are a bit off with the dot that they place for Liberal Democrats. They got that dot confused with Conservative Democrats. The site obviously just doesn't want to admit that a large chunk of democrats are conservative.

Liberal and Conservative Democrats are European terms, I believe. They are not referring to groups within the US Party called the Democrats.

More specifically, they're speaking of the British party named the Liberal Democrats, who are, rather to my liking, reasonably conservative. Not quite conservative enough, but then, who is?

Maybe the Amish.

Depends what you mean by conservative, I guess. The Flat Earth Society is making a pretty good go of it.

Let's see if I can make this work...

And a close up of the cluttered region (which I started just prior to realizing I could move names... they were on top of each other originally - first pic has been edited)

Maybe I'll add in the Libertarian/Authoritarian labels and stuff later. If people want them and stuff.

By the way, I took the quiz again, and came in at 6.38, -2.3.

Then I took it one last time, and instead of answering the ambiguous wording of the questions, I answered to the issue the question was addressing. Came in at 8.75, -2.3. I figure my actual score is probably between the two, closer to the second.

I retook the test, as well.

Original Score
Economic Left/Right: -4.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.10

New Score
Economic Left/Right: -5.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.97

Marius wrote:By the way, I took the quiz again, and came in at 6.38, -2.3.

Then I took it one last time, and instead of answering the ambiguous wording of the questions, I answered to the issue the question was addressing. Came in at 8.75, -2.3. I figure my actual score is probably between the two, closer to the second.

That's nice. You already made me resize the image a few times trying to keep you from going off the end while still leaving the rest large enough to be useful. Now you want me to add on an exta 1.75 to the side? Get me more width, this 800x600 just won't cut it...

Wow, Bonefish (Ghotty) is all by his lonesome.

Economic Left/Right: -4.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.97

Here are the results when I plugged Bush's answers in:

Economic Left/Right: 7.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.49

I forced myself to always select the Strongly options.

These results show my view of Bush as being roughly the same for Left/Right but my view is a lower value for Social Libertarian/Authoritarian.

This quiz really needs an "I don't give a shit" option.

Interesting. The graph is showing two kinds of clusters. Guess we know what liberal and conservative is on this board now...

You'll note that the board conservatives are a lot closer to the origin than the board liberals. Fuckin' hippies.

Instant Cash wrote:Wow, Bonefish (Ghotty) is all by his lonesome.

Yeah. There are a couple of people on the board in my quadrant. According to the site, however, there are no international figures in my quadrant.

No U.S. candidates are in my quadrant or in Ghotty's. There are international figures in there with Bone. Namely, Hussein, Mugabe, Arafat, Chirac, and the Pope. Way to go Bonefish!

Salvation122 wrote:You'll note that the board conservatives are a lot closer to the origin than the board liberals. Fuckin' hippies.

And note also that the origin is set for Brits. See how all of the Democratic presidential candidates are right of the origin (except the two really crazy ones)? In America the origin would be farther to the right.

Dear gods there are a lot of liberals here!

Salvation122 wrote:You'll note that the board conservatives are a lot closer to the origin than the board liberals. Fuckin' hippies.

The board origin is off. Here, I'll show you where the center is...

hey Ang, could you send me the data sheet? I really want to see what a factor rotation gives me.

Marius wrote: Yeah. There are a couple of people on the board in my quadrant. According to the site, however, there are no international figures in my quadrant.

All I know is that I am chillin with the Dali Lama.

Instant Cash wrote:

Marius wrote: Yeah. There are a couple of people on the board in my quadrant. According to the site, however, there are no international figures in my quadrant.

All I know is that I am chillin with the Dali Lama.

All I know is I'm totally centrist.

Daki wrote:Dear gods there are a lot of liberals here!

Yes, we are out to strangle you with our long hair and poke your eyes out with peace signs.

Oye. This is Marius.
I want to do some stat analysis on the scores, so I want information.
If you've posted scores, could you also post (or send to me, if you're private) your age, gender, and location?
To avoid adding a lots of hard to find posts, you can use this post by logging in as Data Collector (password: member) and editing to add your information to the bottom of the list. Also feel free to suggest other variables you'd like to see.

Marius: 25, male, Pennsylvania USA
Toryu: 26, male, Hannover, Germany.
Johnny the Bull: 21, male, Brisbane, Australia.
Serious Paul: 29, male, Michigan USA
Uncle Joseph: 29, male, Michigan USA
Reika: 27, female, Woodridge NY USA
Angel: 20, female, Vienna Austria
Anguirel: 24, male, Syracuse NY USA
Szechuan: 20, male, Moncton NB, Canada
Salvation: 19, male, Memphis TN, USA.

A'ight. Toryu: 26, male, Hannover, Germany.

Serious Paul and Uncle Joseph, both male, both 29 (He has me by about ten months) and Michigan USA.

(Hope I am not out of line doing that Jo, but I believe the information is already out there.)

My responses
Economic Left/Right: 4.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.18

Johnny the Bull: 21; Male; Brisbane, Australia

I expected these kind of results. At heart I am an entrepreneur, so a freer market is better as far as I am concerned except to curb any extreme excesses by corporations. If there was a question based on succession of estates, I think I'd be closer to 2.1 on the economic left/right scales due to my views on it.

Johnny the Bull wrote:If there was a question based on succession of estates, I think I'd be closer to 2.1 on the economic left/right scales due to my views on it.

Why 2.1?

mrmooky wrote:

Johnny the Bull wrote:If there was a question based on succession of estates, I think I'd be closer to 2.1 on the economic left/right scales due to my views on it.

Why 2.1?

I consider succession of estates one of the worst leakages in an economy. I want to plug it by taxing all assests (aside from family dwelling, car and life insurance payments) of an estate to any single person over $500k 100%.

Retook the test myself.

Responses:

Economic Left/Right: -7.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.82


Reika: 27; Female; Woodridge, NY, USA

Economic Left/Right: -5.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.69

Angel; 20 years old (almost 21), female, Vienna Austria - Europe.

Economic Left/Right: -3.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.72

Raygun: 27, Male, Great Falls, MT USA

Ray:: Didn't you used to live in Dallas?

Economic Left/Right: -3.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.23

Cash: 28, Male, San Jose, CA

FlameBlade wrote:Interesting. The graph is showing two kinds of clusters. Guess we know what liberal and conservative is on this board now...

*walks in snapping his fingers*

When you're a liberal,
You're a liberal all the way
From your first peace protest
To your last dyin' day.

When you're a liberal,
If the voting split hits the fan,
You got judges around,
You're a protesting man!

You're never alone,
You're never disconnected!
You're home with your own:
When conservatives're expected,
You're well protected!

Then you are set
With a capital L,
Which you'll never forget
Till they cart you away.
When you're a liberal,
You stay a liberal!

Yes, we are out to strangle you with our long hair and poke your eyes out with peace signs.

Hey now, don't go lumping all the long hairs together you pansy ass peacenik!!

Cash wrote:Ray:: Didn't you used to live in Dallas?

That's actually not a bad thing to track. Perhaps, if it makes sense for a given individual, Marius could also go for where a person was born and/or raised in addition to current residence. In my case all three locations are the same, but if someone has moved recently or whatever, they're more likely to have views in tune with where they were than where they go (unless that's why they moved). Of possibly more significant interest, whether you were raised in a city, suburb or in the country, along with the size of your school. I'd be suburb, and graduating class size was about 1,000 I think, though elementary (K-4) was split amongst three schools, and middle school (5-8) was split in two.

Economic Left/Right: -1.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.62

I didn't think I was a Leftist or a Libertarian.

Anguirel wrote:

Cash wrote:Ray:: Didn't you used to live in Dallas?

That's actually not a bad thing to track. Perhaps, if it makes sense for a given individual, Marius could also go for where a person was born and/or raised in addition to current residence. In my case all three locations are the same, but if someone has moved recently or whatever, they're more likely to have views in tune with where they were than where they go (unless that's why they moved).

Zang makes a valid point there. Location is quite an important factor in the test. There are some very country-specific questions, and a person may answer them differently depending on location, e. g. "Is the tax rate too high?". Kinda makes a difference if you're living in the US, or, say, Sweden.

While the location factor is of relevance, tracking where someone has lived may be a bit tricky to implement.

Cash wrote:Ray:: Didn't you used to live in Dallas?

Yeah. Moved to Montana three years ago. Born in Dallas, raised in Garland, Texas (large, blue-collar suburb of Dallas). The only thing I miss is good Mexican food.

Ancient History wrote:I didn't think I was a Leftist or a Libertarian.

Neither did I. Silly Brits.

Screw you Texas boy.

Just 'cause we like our politics with a little more choice than Option One, Option Two, Assorted Whackos.

And you fix it by making me a leftist? Sod off!

Dammit!

I took it twice, just to be sure.

1st test:
Economic Left/Right: -3.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.64

2nd test:
Economic Left/Right: -3.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.21

3rd test:
Economic Left/Right: -3.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.59

First reaction: Holy shit...

Second reaction: This test is, well, biased. I feel the wordage is ambiguous in several questions. I also agonized over some questions (Agree or Disagree), as their answers merit deeper analysis.

EDIT: JongWK, 23, male, Montevideo (Uruguay).

Now how the fuck am I going to classify Uruguay?

I'd suggest [Other], myself.

Daki, Male, 26, Chicago, IL USA

Marius wrote:Now how the fuck am I going to classify Uruguay?

European wannabes wishing they weren't stuck between Argentina and Brazil?

Salvation122 wrote:I'd suggest [Other], myself.

Maybe, but Latin/South America could make for a better entry.

IC: Male, 29, Volo, IL (Chicago) USA

Economic left/right: .88
Social libertarian/authoritarian: -1.49

Silent Sniper: Male, 19, Glens Falls, NY, USA

Oh come on now, there has to be /someone/ older than me.

Bethy and Cain, if no one else.

Economic Left/Right: -6.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.97

Instant; Not older then you (or perhaps I am but we have to compare actuall dates then) but I'm 29.

Instant Cash wrote:Oh come on now, there has to be /someone/ older than me.

Sludig is older, but he doesn't post much on the board, and you're only a year or so older than me iirc.