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3278 wrote:Yeah, I would guess you're probably down to the wear bars on one side, meaning almost out of pad material, but I'd have to drive it to be more sure. Probably just needs "a brake job." Comparatively cheap, an afternoon's work.
Turned out it was exactly that. In the same afternoon, we redid the rear [drum] brakes on the Cherokee, which are now bedded in and have stopped ruining my mileage. [Went from 18 to 13 overnight.]

Finally sold my BMW to a restorer on Sunday. Now I really want another one, but I have to get a new Cherokee first, specifically a south-of-the-Mason-Dixon 1996: everything after 1996 gets the interior out of a minivan, and sucks balls. I'm still undecided on whether I want a full-time or part-time 4wd system - the former is superior in snow, the latter offroading - and have decided I don't care if it's a 4 door or 2 door model. Chances are, I'll get a part-time 4wd and just mount limited-slip diffs, but I may also have to replace the transfer case and pretty quickly it becomes an issue of "buy Jeep, replace underside."

Sure wish I could get disks in the rear without paying a fortune. Apparently I can get the rear end from a Liberty and bolt it on, which gets me Dana 44s and disk brakes, and then it's just a matter of new brake lines, which I'll be replacing anyway. [With braided stainless; brakes are the thing I spend the most money on when working on cars.]
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3278 wrote:brakes are the thing I spend the most money on when working on cars.
This may very well be the least surprising thing you've ever said. I can't ever imagine how you would ever put a lot of wear and tear on your brakes. :cute
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Offroading turns out to be even more brake-intensive, since failure means things like falling off a cliff or running into a very nearby tree. Road driving usually gives you more distance between you and other obstacles, and much grippier surfaces to brake against!

I miss having a manual, sometimes; I never used the brakes on the BMW except in panic situations - not rare, admittedly ;) - but rather downshifted through the gears, bringing me to a halt without ever touching the brakes and raising my fuel mileage upward of 30 MPG with a 25-year-old race-modified car. But the convenience of an auto in the Jeep is really something, and makes left-foot-braking a lot easier than in a manual; another tough decision for whatever '96 I buy.
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3278 wrote:So I spent the week removing the old exhaust system. Updated prices to come...
Damn it! I really wish I'd kept up with this, just for my own edification, to be able to know what my total cost of ownership has been on the Jeep. Looks like I haven't added in the muffler, or the drum brakes, or my tires. I can probably figure out those costs again, but I'd rather have done it right the first time. Still, one of these days, I'll figure it out, and add up my total cost since I bought the car, last year April.

I'll need to add in the cost of rear shocks [still haven't installed the front ones I bought, but we'll be doing that soon] and the cost of a new rear tail light. The latter because I backed into a tree with the Jeep while offroading. Twice. Yes, the same tree. Still, $40 is a pretty reasonable bill to pay for a year's worth of offroading: I've done no other damage to it thus far.

Bj0rked up the bumper, too, but it's only bent, not replacement-worthy, and can be fixed by just removing it; it only bent an inch or two. The hatch won't open with the bumper bent, and won't latch with the bumper bent, so it's really only being held shut by the bent bumper. A couple days later, Paul backed into the same portion of the Jeep, resulting in a sum total of no damage...to the Jeep, anyway.

Finally thinking of replacing the head unit with a Sony bluetooth-capable device. The current [stock] stereo uses the BMW's old in-line-with-the-antenna auxiliary input box to receive audio from my MP3 player, and it's finally failing, so it's probably about time to upgrade. Illumination won't match the Jeep, but I guess I'll have to live with that somehow.

Other than that, she needs an oil change again. Also, is starting to hesitate sometimes at highway speeds, always a specific amount of time after setting off, and on specific grades of hill. I need to start tracking that down, first by replacing the fuel filter, then by troubleshooting the fuel pump. Might replace the fuel injectors with 4-hole injectors from a Neon, which gives a healthy boost to fuel economy and power on open throttle, and costs little [with junkyard parts].
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Make absolutely sure you replace o-rings and gasket when working with fuel.
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On Saturday, I started working on the Audi, attempting to seal the oil leaks. I started by moving my Jetta out of the driveway so I could back the Audi out of the garage. The Jetta promptly stalled, and wouldn't restart. I was able to trace the problem to a blown fuel pump/heated O2 sensor fuse, but the problem continued with a new fuse.

My Audi gasket kit consisted of a set of valve cover gaskets, new camshaft seals and some other related gaskets. After about 3 hours, I had pulled the top portion of the engine apart, and then discovered that I had to pull both camshafts out to do the seals. I decided this was beyond my skill level, since I didn't have the special tool to relieve the tension on the camshaft tensioner. Also, removing the camshafts and reinstalling them runs the risk of changing the engine timing, which, if done incorrectly, completely destroys my engine.

So I put the new valve cover gasket on the passenger side while reinstalling the stuff I had taken off. But the oil leaks continue, and may not be related to the camshaft seals anyway. I contacted our indie shop that specializes in imports. $90/hour is their shop rate...only $5/hour cheaper than the dealership. Since my Jetta is no longer running, I have to fix that before I can take the Audi in for diagnostic. Fun.

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On Father's Day, I visited my dad, and tried diagnosing several problems with his 1975 Volkswagen Beetle Coupe. He had previously taken it to a VW "specialist" near his hometown. After paying the guy to make some adjustments on the shift linkage, and some other repairs, the car shifted worse. Plus, the horn no longer worked, and some trim panels had been cracked/chipped in the process.

Well, I took apart the shift linkage and discovered that the guy had reversed a mounting plate, making it impossible for the shift lever to move properly. After about 30 minutes, I was able to correct the shift problem.

I discovered the horn wasn't getting any power. Somewhere along the way, while installing a used ignition switch, the guy managed to disconnect the horn. Due to the cracking and chipping of the horn button trim panel, it appeared that he tried to glue it back into place, making it impossible for me to remove it and check the connections without breaking it into many pieces.

Another thing that was done somewhere along the way: The front speaker was disconnected, along with 1/2 of the fresh air and heater duct work just ahead of the firewall. We have no idea if the repairman had anything to do with this, or if it was like this when my dad bought the car a few years ago. I re-connected everything, so the duct and speaker work.

The passenger side window doesn't roll down, and the horn still doesn't work. Another issue, is that the heat and defrost don't work...not a problem at the moment, but winter will be another story. In looking at the engine, it appears that most of the heater hose/duct work coming off the engine is either pinched closed, or disconnected completely. The entire bottom of the car is covered with panels, so it's going to take a lot of disassembly to get in there and re-connect everything. So I have my work cut out for me.
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Had to replace the driver's side rear caliper and caliper bracket. Top guide post sheared off, and there's no way without a machine shop that I'm getting the bottom 1/2 out of the bracket. Easy fix, really, just unbolt caliper and bracket, disconnect brake line, then reverse. (And don't forget that damn e-brake cable bracket...I almost did. Luckily auto parts store guy had a wrench, and we pulled it off. I thought it came with caliper, it doesn't). And now rear brakes are all brand new, at least with in a couple thousand miles..pads, rotors and calipers. Yay. Plus I just had to have the heads machined and replace the gaskets, which means I tore the top 1/2 of the engine off. Twice, actually, because the 1st time I stopped right at the heads and just replaced the intake manifold gasket. But of course, that was not the problem. I am now very very very familiar with GM's 3100 V6 engine. In 3 different configurations.
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Ran some tests on the fuel system on the Jetta today. Continuity test on the fuel pump relay...relay is fine. Pulled the fuel pump (submerged in the fuel tank) and checked it for obstructions...no obstructions. Also put a 12V current to the fuel pump and it appears to run fine. Now I can't get the fuel pump sealed back into the tank because the gasket appears to have stretched too much...more on this later.

Now I have to make sure the fuel filter isn't clogged, and that the wiring between the relay and the pump isn't shorted. I have to construct a bypass lead in order to do this, and it's a PITA to attach the lead by myself. After those 2 tests, I'm down to checking the O2 sensor wiring, which is on the same fused circuit as the fuel pump.

If none of that ends up being the problem, it's my ECM, which is tres expensive, and not worth fixing. It means I'll be keeping the Jetta for my electric car conversion after all, and not selling it for some quick cash.
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Traced the fuse problem on the Jetta to a shorted O2 sensor circuit. The heat deflector on the back of the engine had rusted off its mounts a long time ago (before I bought it). The solution was to stick a portion of the deflector into a thin-walled section of metal ahead of the firewall (also done before I owned it). This caused the heat deflector to ride very low, and ultimately come to rest on the O2 sensor wiring loom. It eventually melted the insulation on the wires and shorted the circuit. Once I removed the heat deflector (the engine doesn't need it anyway) and separated the shorted wires, viola! No more blown fuses.

I was able to re-assemble the fuel pump and fuel level float without incident. I just hope the fuel level sensor still functions properly.

I also was able to replace the vacuum hoses on my Audi turbo diverter valves. A short test drive this evening seemed to reveal that the new vacuum lines improved throttle response and acceleration. Although, this may be untrue, since I haven't been driving the Audi for about 3 months, and this might be the way it always was...I just got used to much less performance. Who knows? Either way, me likey me Audi!

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Oil changes for both Audi and Jetta.
New parking brake lines for the Jetta.
New fuel filter for the Jetta.
Rotate tires on the Audi.
Figure out what's rubbing when I turn the Audi right.
Install new cabin air filter in the Audi.
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A few weeks ago, I had a bad day and took it out on my Jeep, which I offroaded under less-than-ideal circumstances. The end result was that I backed into a tree with it at high speed. Twice. The same tree. Considering the provocation, the damage is minimal - a busted taillight, bent bumper and slightly warped rear quarter panel. This week I'm going to order the new taillight, and will try to remove and straighten the bumper. If I have to buy a new bumper, it's not expensive, but I'd prefer to avoid it if possible. But given the choice between spending the money, and having an unsafe bumper, I'll spend the money. Safety first!

The rear hatch was pushed up by the bent bumper, and doesn't latch, but the kink in the bumper holds it shut. My hope is that the hatch isn't permanently bent, which would require a new hatch - at least - which would cost more than I'm willing to spend. I'm pretty sure it's going to be fine, though.

This week I'll also be ordering the rear shocks and the front shock isolators, so we'll finally be able to replace the shocks, which have been bad for a year now [since I bought it]. I already have the front shocks and the steering dampener, and bought some used coil springs [one of mine is broken, the last few inches literally snapped off] from a guy on Craigslist. If I hadn't bought them used, they'd have been an inch [at least] too tall, and would have necessitated replacement leaf springs, which I have no interest in replacing on this Cherokee.

Once I get everything purchased, I'm going to try to tally up my total cost of ownership, since I got behind several months ago.
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Well, you don't see this every day.

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Last week - or the week before? - I finally got the shocks I bought a year ago on, along with the "new" coil springs. It does ride a little high in the front, so I'm thinking maybe I'll find some used leaf springs [guys who put on real lift kits can't use their old leaf springs, so there are a lot lying about, although they're worth a reasonable amount of money just for their metal] when I do the rear shocks. I'm still pretty dedicated to not spending more than I need to on this Cherokee - it's just too rusted to justify investment, since it's going to have to be replaced sooner rather than later - but another $25 [what I paid for the coil springs] isn't out of the question.

This afternoon, my daughter and I installed the new rear bumper, as well. We still have to move the caps from the old bumper, else someone will walk by and cut themselves, but it looks pretty sharp. Kind of makes me want to replace the front, too, but that's just vanity, and there's no way I'll do it, even though the bumper's only $50.

222,222.2 miles. Not bad for a vehicle I bought for $850, that still has a better power-to-weight ratio than many modern performance cars [about 130 brake horsepower per ton], and can actually put it all down while driving over, you know, trees and mountains and things. Best investment I've ever made in a car.
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3278 wrote:...that still has a better power-to-weight ratio than many modern performance cars...
This is still melting my brain. I just did the math on the weight of a Ferrari F40, and my Cherokee weighs only about 500 more pounds! Than a car made almost entirely of carbon fiber! I just don't understand how this can be, because it's not what you'd call a flimsy thing: it's all rugged giant steel girders and thick sheet metal. And while it's small by modern SUV standards, it's not like my tiny old BMW. But somehow, this crazy Jeep, with its power windows and stereo and carpeting and air conditioning and pig-iron innards weighs only 2905 pounds, or about 1320 kilos. I guess not having air bags [or any safety features at all, really] probably helps. :)

I really want to run around drag racing everyone in my Cherokee. I could kick the ass of 90 percent of what's on the road...right up to about 45mph, where wind resistance would take me right the fuck out. :D
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How the hell have I gone this long without posting a picture of it?

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3278 wrote:How the hell have I gone this long without posting a picture of it?

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I'd say because your a paranoid delusionoid who thinks that people on the intertron want nothing more to despoil the things you hold dear. Nice wagen.
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Are your tired low in the photo or do you let the air out when you go offroading?
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That front tire is - perpetually - low, definitely. The rear is ~30psi [200kPa?], standard road pressure.

I would very much like to be able to [intentionally] "air down" for loose surfaces [although I haven't needed to yet], but I have no effective means of airing back up. That's not a big deal right now - stock rig, careful offroading - but as I go up tire sizes and want to do more crazy things, I'll definitely benefit from on on-board air supply [which can also operate differentials, blow off dust, and inflate inflatable thing-ees]. What I should get is a little less ambitious, but what I'd like to get is this super duty on board air system, which will actually let me run air tools from it.
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When I was in Dubai recently, we went out into the desert with 4x4's and they aired down the tires. They didn't pump them back up for the trip back, instead doing it when they reached the city. I think you can drive on them like that for a little bit, even in the scorching Emirate heat.
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You can get away with some of that, to be sure. There are a ton of factors, like rim type, tire type, surface type, temperature, and so on. Realistically, I could air down to 5-15psi and still drive some distance on pavement; it's harder on the tires, but...well, "tire wear" isn't one of my biggest concerns. :) Typically, though, I can't air down while I'm "out," because there's a good chance I won't be "in" for another week or two! Fortunately, I'm rarely on sand or soft snow, which are the two biggies for airing down; sometimes I get into sand pits [courtesy of our glacial geology], but thus far, I've been able to get away with a combination of high speed and locking diffs. ;)

What I really want is a means of remotely airing up and down; i.e., that without exiting the Jeep, I could add or remove pressure from the tires. I've come up with some compelling means of doing so, but nothing really practical. Still, I think this is an inevitable development.
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I found this great, old school, Group B rally video: https://www.nalden.net/#/video/608/
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Got the Jeep stuck today for the first time. And I mean stuck. Really, really stuck. If awards were given for how stuck someone could be, we would have walked home with whatever color of award indicates the maximum amount of stuckness. I'll be back with pictures, and more description.
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Oh this should be good. :)
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3278 wrote:What I really want is a means of remotely airing up and down; i.e., that without exiting the Jeep, I could add or remove pressure from the tires. I've come up with some compelling means of doing so, but nothing really practical. Still, I think this is an inevitable development.
Of course: the Unimog has this.
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Leave to ze Germans.
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As much as I like this idea, and think it'd be great on the road, I hope they offer a version with radically increased suspension travel. While the base design seems most excellent for road-going machines, there's just not enough up-down movement offered - torque tube notwithstanding - to be a truly one-size-fits-all possibility. Still, I'd like a few of them to experiment with...

They do show a nice prototype with what appear to be radically different control arms. Want.
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ok, so I got my first care. It's a 94 Lumina, with about 135k miles on it. Paid 650 for it, so I think I got a sweet deal. But, here's the question: what can I do to improve my gas mileage? I put 89 octane in the tank, but I'm not sure if that's actually worth it...

But yeah, what should I do? Replacing the spark plugs seems like a safe bet, but what else?
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Bonefish wrote:ok, so I got my first care. It's a 94 Lumina, with about 135k miles on it. Paid 650 for it, so I think I got a sweet deal. But, here's the question: what can I do to improve my gas mileage? I put 89 octane in the tank, but I'm not sure if that's actually worth it...

But yeah, what should I do? Replacing the spark plugs seems like a safe bet, but what else?
Air filter and a bottle of STP should be your first stop. Spark plugs are probably a safe bet as well.
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So, how difficult and expensive is it to replace my air filter? and when you say STP, I know that's some kinda oil additive thing, but what exactly are you talking about?
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3278 wrote:Got the Jeep stuck today for the first time. And I mean stuck. Really, really stuck. If awards were given for how stuck someone could be, we would have walked home with whatever color of award indicates the maximum amount of stuckness. I'll be back with pictures, and more description.
(Sorry, just saw this)
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Bonefish wrote:So, how difficult and expensive is it to replace my air filter? and when you say STP, I know that's some kinda oil additive thing, but what exactly are you talking about?
Air filter should be, at most, fifteen minutes of work and like $15 for the part. You may need a screwdriver.

By STP I mean any fuel-injector cleaner, although I typically go name brand because the cost difference is negligible. It's a gas additive, should be like $3 at any gas station.
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Bonefish wrote:ok, so I got my first care. It's a 94 Lumina, with about 135k miles on it. Paid 650 for it, so I think I got a sweet deal. But, here's the question: what can I do to improve my gas mileage? I put 89 octane in the tank, but I'm not sure if that's actually worth it...

But yeah, what should I do? Replacing the spark plugs seems like a safe bet, but what else?
Congratulations. Welcome to the wonderful world of the no-equity-investment! Basic, regular maintenance will be your best friend in keeping the car running smoothly. Mileage is dependent on many things. 89 octane is worthless for your car, unless it is running rough, and the higher octane improves the way it runs. Higher octane will almost never improve gas mileage. Sometimes, higher octane will make mileage worse. Besides, any extra mileage you might get would never offset the expense of the higher octane gas. Higher octane will improve symptoms of detonation or pre-ignition sometimes, and may improve engine power (if the car is set up for higher octane), but does nothing for mileage in all but the rarest cases.

Good options for your car are:

K&N Air Filter - These increase airflow to the intake, and essentially make the engine breathe easier. This increases mileage in most cases. Plus, these filters are washable, and never wear out (the key is to perform the maintenance on them when K&N recommends). You can get K&N filters at just about any auto parts stores. K&N is the most widely known brand, but there are many others that make "forever" filters. Fram, Green Filters, AFE, AEM and S&B are a few others.

Have your transmission serviced with quality synthetic, low-friction oil & replacement filter (if there is one). DO NOT get it "flushed."

Make sure the brakes are in 100% properly functioning condition. Both drum and disk brakes can stick on slightly, causing extra drag on a wheel. Sometimes this is mistaken for misalignment. In addition, there can be safety issues associated with brakes that are not functioning properly, even if it seems like only a minor issue when you drive.

Replace differential fluid with a quality synthetic, low-friction oil.

Re-pack or replace wheel bearings.

Ensure that your tires are all the same size, sized properly for your car and properly inflated according to the vehicle owner's manual or the door sticker on the driver's side.

Ensure that all engine belts are in good shape and tensioned properly.

Ensure that the wheels are aligned properly, and the tires are balanced.

Use the fuel system cleaner additives, as suggested above. However, it may be a good idea to have them professionally cleaned during a tune-up. You can changed the spark plugs yourself, but you must gap them properly prior to installation for optimum performance. Either your owner's manual or a repair manual for your car (Chilton or Haynes) should have that info.

When you drive, practice "hypermiling." Google it for more details. When I was hypermiling my Ford F-150, which normally only got about 12-14 MPG in town, I was able to double my mileage using hypermiling techniques. Granted, it means driving even more like a Granny than a Granny, but with gas at $4.00/gallon, it's makes good sense.

Eeking out better mileage can be a challenge. But it really boils down to making sure the car is properly tuned in all driveline components. Your driving habits probably make the biggest impact on your mileage, unless you have some glaring mechanical defect.
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Wow! I already kinda do the "hypermiling" thing a bit. I accelerate slowly, and generally leave large gaps between me and the other cars. Mainly becase until thursday, I was driving with no license, and because I don't wanna wreck my ride. But I have to deal with a particular stretch of highway every day(I85, between Statesville Avenue and Graham street, if you wanna google maps it), where I77 has an exit onto 85. EVERY DAMN DAY, almost, the trafic goes from 60mph to 20-30... So I just generally coast along, rather than riding the ass of whoever's in front of me.
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Bonefish wrote:ok, so I got my first care. It's a 94 Lumina, with about 135k miles on it. Paid 650 for it, so I think I got a sweet deal.
Congratulations! If the car runs and drives, and cost $650, it'll be an excellent deal. It may not last forever - read: there will come a point when it's less expensive to buy another car than to fix this one - but, with proper care, can, you know, BE A FUCKING CAR! Very cool.
Bonefish wrote:But, here's the question: what can I do to improve my gas mileage? I put 89 octane in the tank, but I'm not sure if that's actually worth it...
It won't be. If you can afford it, I recommend buying name-brand gas - it's basically guaranteed to be consistent in its quality, while off-brand gas will often change suppliers week to week - but buying higher-octane gas will rarely benefit mileage. [There are sometimes other reasons to get it, but you don't fall into any of those categories.]

I typically run a few tanks of Shell's premium through any new engine I buy, and then continue using Shell; even their lowest-octane gas has cleaners and such, which is a contrast to most companies, who only put the good stuff in their good stuff. But a tank of reliable fuel injector cleaner is a good head-start to cleaning stuff up. Still, one shot won't undo years of shit gas, so good fuel is important on an ongoing basis.
Bonefish wrote:But yeah, what should I do? Replacing the spark plugs seems like a safe bet, but what else?
Well, here's where I caution you. The car you have is renowned for its lack of reliability. It's often called the "Lemina." [Lemon + Lumina.] But that's not necessarily a problem: I drove the car with GM's lowest customer satisfaction rating ever for 314,000 miles. But yes, it does mean that they have some mechanical problems, and that repairs may be necessary at a higher rate than another vehicle.

Let's put fuel mileage in perspective. Let's say you got the engine that most people got: the 3.1 liter V6, GM's standard V6 powerplant at the time [and a pretty decent engine]. In the Lumina, it could be expected to get something like 20 MPG, driven calmly, with a city-leaning mix of highway and urban driving. Let's say yours is gummed up pretty bad, and only gets about 15. If you drive 15,000 miles a year - about the average for your age group, an average which includes a lot of people who live a long way from where they work - and pay $4 a gallon for gas, your "bad fuel economy" will cost you $1,000 per year.

Chances are, your actual economy isn't going to turn out to be that bad, and your mileage probably won't be nearly that high. [Unless you're driving 20 or 30 miles to work each day, and another 20 or 30 back.] Chances are, you'd only get less than $500 a year out of restoring your car to brand-new condition! So don't get carried away with fuel economy: it's easy to spend far more than you're ever going to save. From an economic standpoint - and, hell, an environmental one - concentrate on keeping the car going. :) For example, replacing spark plugs probably wouldn't offer a positive return-on-investment, unless there's something wrong with them.

But mileage deserves attention, so I don't want to ignore it, either. So the first step is, what kind of mileage are you getting now? It's not worth a ton of attention if you're only getting 18MPG out of her, but if you're getting 5, there's probably something quite wrong. Get a tank of decent gas, write down your mileage, drive until you're almost empty, fill the tank back up to the same level, and divide the number of miles you drove by the number of gallons you just put in. [Which I'm sure you already knew.]

More generally, which engine do you have? The 4-cylinder Luminas will have very different issues from the V6.

Does it leak anything? I assume it's an automatic, so how are your levels of transmission fluid and oil? Coolant? When the engine's been running for a while on a hot day, how does it smell?

When the car's not been running for a while, run your finger along the inside of the tailpipe, as if it were Jeff's rectum. Does it leave a thick, resiny soot on your finger, or just a light dusting of dry black powder? Soot in the exhaust often means a sensor is out of whack, and sometimes a $50 sensor can get you 5 MPG in economy. Tracking down which sensor is out of whack, on the other hand...

This being a Lumina - or, to be honest, any 90s GM - I would assume that a check engine light is on somewhere. [If it isn't, check to make sure the light isn't burned out; it should briefly illuminate when you fire up the car.] GMs at the time had very stringent requirements for being in good working order, and rarely stayed in perfect working order, and thus constantly tripped check engine lights; this often isn't a problem, but you can have it scanned [free] and get a better idea of which sensors might be trouble. And if the light is good, but not on, then you know someone's been taking very nice care of your ride.

So here's what I would do right away:
  • A few tanks of good [preferably Shell] gas. Maybe some injector cleaner, particularly if you notice soot in the tailpipe.
  • Oil change. Start off clean. Do it yourself, and use Valvoline Max-Life Synthetic, and a brand-name oil filter [Fram's good]. Don't ever put anything but Valvoline Max-Life Synthetic in it ever again; there are other oils I'd recommend if you drove an M3, but for a high-mileage car, this shit's gold. [edit: While you're changing it, look in the discarded oil: is there anything but oil in it? Like antifreeze? Or metal?]
  • Check this other stuff everyone's mentioned: your mileage, the condition of your brakes, how sooty your tailpipe is, any weird noises or vibrations, wheel shake at speed, etc. Report back, because we love this stuff.
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I like all of Joseph's suggestions, but I wanted to put them in a kind of order, because many of them aren't things you'll want to do right away, if at all.
UncleJoseph wrote:Ensure that your tires are all the same size, sized properly for your car and properly inflated according to the vehicle owner's manual or the door sticker on the driver's side.

Ensure that all engine belts are in good shape and tensioned properly.

Ensure that the wheels are aligned properly, and the tires are balanced.
These are all quick, cheap diagnostics that should be done immediately. Now, you can't afford to have some dude actually take the wheels off and see if they're balanced - unless you can find a shop that'll check for free - but you can check yourself pretty easily, just by driving the car, and feeling for vibrations in the steering wheel at different speeds, particularly on smooth pavement. So drive a variety of speeds on the smoothest, straightest road you have, and if you don't feel wobble, you're probably okay.

If you do feel wobble, and can't afford to get them balanced right away, you can put the offending wheel on the back, and it'll at least keep the problem from being really troublesome, but you really want balanced wheels if you can get them.
UncleJoseph wrote:K&N Air Filter - These increase airflow to the intake, and essentially make the engine breathe easier. This increases mileage in most cases.
These things usually pay for themselves, and make a great first investment in a car. They don't have to ever be replaced, so they're better investments for long-term cars, but it's not a terrible idea for you.

If the car isn't likely to last more than a year, though, I wouldn't bother with a K&N, but just a decent-quality name-brand filter. And you needn't buy one at all, until your existing one needs replaced. I can't give you exact directions without knowing the engine, but it'll take 2 minutes to pop off the cover and look at the filter you've got. Is it dirty? Torn? No? Then put it back, and check again in a month or two. You have to use some judgment here, but common sense is usually enough to tell you if you need a new filter.
UncleJoseph wrote:Make sure the brakes are in 100% properly functioning condition.
This is the single most important thing you can do on the car. Irrespective of fuel economy, your brakes are the most important things your car has, in terms of safety, and you want them to work, and work well. Do some hard braking: does it stop quickly? Does it track straight while you're braking? If there's anything irregular, inspect the brakes, or take them to a place that you can trust, that'll do a free brake inspection.

I personally buy brand new brakes with very car I buy, and install them myself right away. This is because I drive old, shitty cars, and I like them to stop like new, shiny cars. This might not be necessary for you, and you shouldn't replace them if they're good, but it's not an expensive or difficult job.
UncleJoseph wrote:However, it may be a good idea to have them professionally cleaned during a tune-up.
You probably wouldn't get your money back with this one. On a better car, yes, but on this one, no.
UncleJoseph wrote:Have your transmission serviced with quality synthetic, low-friction oil & replacement filter (if there is one). DO NOT get it "flushed."

Re-pack or replace wheel bearings.

Replace differential fluid with a quality synthetic, low-friction oil.
You'll probably never do any of those things. They're too expensive for your budget, or are oriented toward a longer-term investment in the car. It'd be great if you drove this car for five years, and if I thought that were likely, I'd encourage you to do some more of this esoteric stuff, but as it is, I'd probably recommend putting that money in the bank for when the engine falls out or something.

Regular, routine, preventative maintenance is the way to drive a car for hundreds of thousands of miles, reliably. Wouldn't it be nice to have the money to do that properly, on a proper car? Well, someday for us. You should see Joseph's car; it's really a lot nicer than ours. :D
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Two other thoughts.

1. Hypermiling is by far the most effective way of getting good economy, far beyond even what mechanical changes can achieve. It's also a very safe way of driving on the interstate, and much more economical in town. There are a variety of tips in the Animalball hypermiling thread, but I suspect Joseph and I - anyone else here hypermile? - could be induced to share our own.

2. Check your exhaust. Along with an oil change and new brakes, exhaust is the first thing I do to a car, because so many old ones are wrecks: I literally unbolt the old one from the engine and replace the entire thing. Down there, it might not be so bad, and besides, that's a major investment. So for you, just check: does it make a lot of noise or smell? Are there any missing or rusted hangars, or pipes that look ready to start rusting through? If not, hey, leave it, but do check from time to time. If so...well, we'll see when we get there.
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32 makes excellent points about my suggestions, especially the bearings, transmission and differential services. Unless you plan to keep the car a very long time (and, with only 134k on the clock, you certainly could if it's not rusting away), several of those suggestions aren't likely to pay you back in mileage savings. In fact, many of the "upgrades," as such, could end up costing you more money in the long run. It'd be like buying a brand new fuel efficient car simply because it gets better mileage and will "save you money" in the long run. That is simply not true. Keeping an older car on the road, even factoring in horrible mileage on some of the older V8s, is still far cheaper than buying a new car. There is a point in the life of every car where that's no longer true, but it usually takes several decades.

If everything boils down to your budget, do everything as cheaply as possible, while still using quality parts, to keep the car on the road, and don't worry as much about mileage. Spending $300 in a year, just to save $200 in fuel costs doesn't make any sense, although people do this shit all the time.

If your goal is to consume less gas, in some scheme to be a good steward of the planet and reduce dependence upon foreign oil, well, budget accordingly.
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UncleJoseph wrote:It'd be like buying a brand new fuel efficient car simply because it gets better mileage and will "save you money" in the long run. That is simply not true. Keeping an older car on the road, even factoring in horrible mileage on some of the older V8s, is still far cheaper than buying a new car.
Just recently I did this. My fuel economy situation is about to change drastically, since I'm moving to a town that's separated from my job by almost nothing but expressway [4 to 6 lane divided freeway with entrance/exit ramps]. Most of my driving now is either local [in-city] or highway [55-mph two-lane with stoplights in towns]. Changing to almost entirely expressway driving - if I choose to drive expressway speeds - makes my Cherokee a poor choice for daily transportation. Not only is it positively dangerous at high speeds,* but it gets horrific mileage, being as aerodynamic as a brick. [Like, almost literally.]

At best, the Cherokee gets less than 15 MPG when doing mostly expressway driving, at 70 mph. That sucks. I can manage 20 or so when I'm driving mostly at 55 mph. Getting 12 to 15, with four dollar gas? So I started thinking, hey, what about a second car. Just for commuting. Something boring, safe, and highway-ready. A Honda Civic, or a Toyota Camry. A Volkswagen diesel, maybe. Or...hmm, a Mazda MX5 gets pretty good mileage...

But then you really think about it: even if the new car got 45MPG, it'd only save me something like $2700 bucks a year. I'd pay $1200 just to carry insurance on the new car every year. That means the car would need to cost me less than $1500 per year, including maintenance and purchase price!

Hmm. I started this whole thing off as a diatribe about what an idiot I'd been to consider this, but looking again - with the trusty Excel spreadsheet I created this morning to do Bone's fuel economy comparisons - this doesn't seem like that bad an idea. If I could figure I'd keep the car for five years - be able to keep it running for that time - if I could hand off 15,000 miles per year of my driving off to a car that got 45 MPG instead of 15, and paid $1200 a year in insurance, I think my total car ownership cost would just need to be about $7500, in maintenance and initial purchase price. And a lot of the maintenance costs of having two cars wouldn't be doubled, since I'd only be driving one at a time; more oil changes on one means fewer on the other.

And that would mean I could make the [next] Cherokee more off-road-capable at the expense of on-road capability, because it wouldn't be my daily driver.

But what car is there that gets 45 MPG that wouldn't just be horrible to drive? Hmm. Volkswagen diesel, definitely, which drives like my old BMW as long as you're on a straight road. Not an MX5, unfortunately. Hmm.

I'd really like to build an electric Cherokee. Curb weight on these things can be as little as 2900 pounds [although presumably that's the 2WD 4 cylinder], about the same as the Jetta! And plenty of room for batteries. Not aerodynamic, no, but plenty of room for batteries.
UncleJoseph wrote:32 makes excellent points about my suggestions, especially the bearings, transmission and differential services. Unless you plan to keep the car a very long time (and, with only 134k on the clock, you certainly could if it's not rusting away), several of those suggestions aren't likely to pay you back in mileage savings.
And when you do buy a car that you want to keep for a long, long while, these are all good things to do. It's almost always cost-effective over the long term to prevent rather than correct, so if you can restore or replace the parts most likely to go wrong before they break, it'll usually save you money. But your $650 Lumina probably isn't going to be your long-term car, any more than my $850 Cherokee is. I'm looking forward to the long-term one, though.

*There's some sort of suspension problem which, at high speeds, can result in a front wheel "pogo-ing" when I hit just the right sort of bump; the new shocks have not stopped this. It seems to be worse when the wheel is a little low on air, which means it's quite possibly a balance problem; I need to swap the tires on that side front for rear and find out. It doesn't effect both front wheels equally, but it effects both front wheels. And it sucks. It happened at 70 earlier this week, and I was pretty sure something was going to snap off. Usually, a sharp stab on the brakes will stop the oscillation, but not this time. It's really quite dangerous, and I can't wait to buy my new Cherokee.
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for what it's worth, my driving is mostly from my house to work, which is 6.8mi, with most of it on the interstate. in time, i may become more adventurous and drive other places, but right now, there's not much need, and expenses are tight enough that I can't justify joyriding.

The engine is the 3.1L v6, and everything seems to be in decent working order. My oil is fairly good, though when i get next weeks paycheck i might change it all out. Tranny fluid is a bout 1 quart lower than it should be, I keep bullshitting and putting off going to my aunts car and getting the tranny fuild out.
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Low transmission fluid suggests a leak somewhere. Unlike an engine, a transmission doesn't burn oil, unless something is very, very wrong with it, and then it doesn't function for very long. Also, I'm sure you're joking about your aunt's car, but never, ever put used transmission fluid in a car (unless you're trying to pull some A-Team stunt where you need to save the day, and it's the only option).
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UncleJoseph wrote:Low transmission fluid suggests a leak somewhere. Unlike an engine, a transmission doesn't burn oil, unless something is very, very wrong with it, and then it doesn't function for very long. Also, I'm sure you're joking about your aunt's car, but never, ever put used transmission fluid in a car (unless you're trying to pull some A-Team stunt where you need to save the day, and it's the only option).
No not used Tranny fluid. She's got a quart or two of tranny fluid in the trunk.
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Bonefish wrote:for what it's worth, my driving is mostly from my house to work, which is 6.8mi, with most of it on the interstate. in time, i may become more adventurous and drive other places, but right now, there's not much need, and expenses are tight enough that I can't justify joyriding.
My guess would be that you're unlikely to drive more than 5,000 miles a year, which would mean that raising your economy from 15 to 20 would gain you about 300 bucks a year, so you figure spending more than that on economy alone would likely be a waste. For more money savings, do all the hypermiling stuff, and don't drive around with more stuff in the car than you have to: less weight means less fuel to move it.
Bonefish wrote:The engine is the 3.1L v6, and everything seems to be in decent working order.
Good. The V6 is definitely the engine to have. And it's the engine that the Lumina owned by Estes had, so it's the one I've spent by far the most time under.
Bonefish wrote:My oil is fairly good, though when i get next weeks paycheck i might change it all out.
If he got it changed at a shop, he'll have a sticker; if you've still got thousands of miles left, and the levels are good, fuck it. If there's no sticker, well, then you have to use your judgment. I always err on the side of changing it, just because it's such a quick, cheap job, and I've been burned by not doing it. Hey, now that I think about it, that's how Estes' Lumina died, although to be fair, he hadn't done an oil change at that point in, like, a year and a half. So you're probably okay. ;)
Bonefish wrote:Tranny fluid is a bout 1 quart lower than it should be, I keep bullshitting and putting off going to my aunts car and getting the tranny fuild out.
I would definitely get it filled as soon as possible, and then check it, whatever, every day. Low transmission fluid can burn a tranny out quick, and as Joseph says, it can indicate a leak, and if you don't know how bad that leak is, you won't know how much has gone out. Worse, trannies often only leak when you're driving, and so you can't just look under the car to see if you're losing some. Hopefully, it's just a slow leak and you can just add a half quart every month or whatever, but the shit's cheap, and now you have a car you can use to go buy it.

I've been doing something stupid with the Jeep lately and not checking the oil, which leaks pretty damned bad - worse than any car owned by anyone I know, let's put it that way. A couple times, I've ended up a couple of quarts low, and recently I think I cracked the head a bit, and even had a chunk of something working around in the cylinders. Now I've got antifreeze in my oil, and I've lost a lot of compression, and my economy isn't so good anymore. And this is one of those things that's just not "fixable." I could stop the leak, but the head repair would be more than the replacement cost of the vehicle. This is just like the transmission fluid: replacing the tranny on your Lumina would cost more than the Lumina, so you want to make sure you don't have to get a new one!
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An interesting calculation: my dad spends just hours a week finding the cheapest gas possible, and would never buy a car which requires premium, but the cost difference in fuel just isn't that great. Take Bone, for example: if he drives 5,000 miles a year, and gets 20 MPG, it'd only cost him $100 a year to run gas that cost 40 cents more per gallon! So if you do have a car that benefits from higher-octane fuel, don't let the cost dissuade you. Even for me, at 15,000 miles per year, and 15 MPG, would only spend $400 a year more running gas that was 40 cents per gallon more expensive.

So don't buy "cheap gas" for its cost savings; for Bone, buying gas that was five cents cheaper would only save him $12.50 a year! So you may as well buy Shell or some other trusted brand, and if your car benefits from it, you may as well run premium: the difference in expense just isn't that great.
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Ok, couple of questions: 1) Any reason to USE 89 instead of 87? 2) What's the deal with this "overdrive"? Yes, I have an Automatic. Yes, someday i will get a stick. But it's what I've got now.
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Bonefish wrote:Ok, couple of questions: 1) Any reason to USE 89 instead of 87?
Depends on your car. Your owner's manual will specify if the engine was designed for use with higher octane fuel. Mine specified an octane rating that regular doesn't meet here, so I use midgrade. Premium (89+) is generally reserved for higher performance engines on sports cars and such, but you might want to calculate your mileage with each grade and see which gives you the best mileage.
2) What's the deal with this "overdrive"? Yes, I have an Automatic. Yes, someday i will get a stick. But it's what I've got now.
It allows you to access your top gear (usually fifth gear). If you want to race (hehehe), turn it off and you'll get the car to go as fast as it can (or until the limiter kicks in). You'll want it on when you're cruising on the highway and such to maximize fuel efficiency. Leaving it on is fine.
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Bonefish wrote:Ok, couple of questions: 1) Any reason to USE 89 instead of 87?
For you, no. Run a couple tanks of premium through to clean things, and then run 87 for the life of the car. I recommend brand name, and further recommend Shell and Chevron [and not BP].
Bonefish wrote:2) What's the deal with this "overdrive"?
As Ray said. You'll only ever need to turn it off in two situations: when driving in mountains, or when pulling a trailer. In both situations, you should switch it off [or when trying to achieve the vehicles top maximum speed], but otherwise you should leave it on.
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Ok, so my check engine light came on. Again. And I stopped by autozone to get a free diagnostic(and i bought two quarts of 10w30 "high mileage" oil, to throw in the trunk and keep on hand, just in case), and they told me that their diagnostic machine wont work on my 94. This "brandon" dude helped me out, sorta, by taking me to a Chelton's book about codes, and how to check my engine.. but..well, it was all greek to me. Sometimes the light comes on, and sometimes it doesn't. Generally, it comes on after I've been driving for 30mins or so, and if I park and sit for a while, it doesn't come on again.

I bought some STP fuel treatment stuff, I've filled up my tranny fluid(gonna check again to see how it is tomorrow after i drive for a while). My engine oil seems good: the top dot on the dipstick is clean, so i guess i can add a bit of oil? STILL haven't gotten my oil changed. I wanna do it myself, but at the same time, I don't have an oil pan(i can buy one), and I want someone who isn't a moron about cars to help me while i do it, just to make sure i don't do somethign stupid and fuck my car. I know, it's an oil change, but you're talking to the guy who can fuck up toast and regularly breaks craftsman tools. I'd like to err on caution.

Sometimes, when I'm dirving, a couple of things happen:
1) The carseems to "hiccup" or something. Like I feel a shudder when i let off the gas, or sometimes when I step on the pedal. Typically happens around 55-65mph. Is it just the car accelerating/slowing down, or what?
2) my speakers fade in and out. Sometimes they'll be pretty loud, then they'll just get a bit muted. I'm guessing that's probably a loose wire somewhere, and when i hit a bump or something, it's getting fucked and messing with my speakers. Also seems to happen when i have my montell jordan tape in a lot. MAybe my car just hates montell.
3) My uncle(well, one of 'em, but he's generally seen as "knowledgable" about cars) told me that my left rear strut/spring needs replacing. It squeeks badly sometimes, and if i apply pressure on the car, it's fairly obvious that the particular side i nquestion is a bit bouncier than the rest. He said it's like a $40 part, and fairly easy to replace. Is it?

And again with this check engine light: would it be worth it to take the car to a mechanics shop and see if they can give me a diagnostic? I know it won't be free, but would it be worth it? Should I call around and ask how much they'll charge? what's reasonable?

And i've pretty much switched to shell gas. There's two shell stations about a mile, to two miles up the street, and i try to get gas from them. I'm also driving more than just back and forth to work: now that I've got a street map of charlotte in my car, I'm not terrified of getting lost(again) in uptown Charlotte.

Which leads to, yet another quesiton, one that Joe might be better prepared to answer. Let's say i was out at a bar, right, and i had a few drinks(like 4 beers or so), and i'm scared to drive cuz i think i might be drunk. Last time, i just waited for a while untill i felt more sober, and then drove. But, well, is there anyway to get a breathalyzer test done BEFORE i drive, to see if i'm too fucked up? I've been doing a fairly good job of not drinking too much when i go out, maybe a beer or two over the course of a few hours, but i'm curious about the legalities here.

Anyway, having a car is still pretty cool. If anybody has any old cassete tapes they want to get rid of, let me know. I'll pay shipping and handling, gladly.
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Bonefish wrote:Sometimes, when I'm dirving, a couple of things happen:
1) The carseems to "hiccup" or something. Like I feel a shudder when i let off the gas, or sometimes when I step on the pedal. Typically happens around 55-65mph. Is it just the car accelerating/slowing down, or what?
2) my speakers fade in and out. Sometimes they'll be pretty loud, then they'll just get a bit muted. I'm guessing that's probably a loose wire somewhere, and when i hit a bump or something, it's getting fucked and messing with my speakers. Also seems to happen when i have my montell jordan tape in a lot. MAybe my car just hates montell.
3) My uncle(well, one of 'em, but he's generally seen as "knowledgable" about cars) told me that my left rear strut/spring needs replacing. It squeeks badly sometimes, and if i apply pressure on the car, it's fairly obvious that the particular side i nquestion is a bit bouncier than the rest. He said it's like a $40 part, and fairly easy to replace. Is it?
#1: Could be any number of things, but this is probably related to your Check Engine Light (CEL). Might be a bad oxygen sensor, or some other sensor related to fuel/air delivery. I know you don't have a ton of money, but it if you're going to perform a moderate amount of your own work on the car, it might be worthwhile to invest in your own ODB-II pocket scanner tool. You can get them for around $30. These things are worth the money, and even the cheaper ones will diagnose most CEL codes on American cars.

#2: Probably a wiring issue, but could be an issue with the actual stereo itself or the speakers. Only way to check, is to check all the wiring connections and see if it starts there. This generally means pulling the stereo out and checking the connections at the back of the unit. Is the stereo a stock GM unit or aftermarket? Then pull all the speakers and check their connections too. The wiring itself usually isn't a problem between the connections, unless someone has done a lot of re-wiring, there is a lot of corrosion in the raceways for the wiring, or someone has generally fucked with the car a bunch.

#3: Struts and springs can be easy to replace, but you generally need a strut/spring compressor. Rear struts are easier, and sometimes you can get away with replacing them without a compressor.

32 will probably elaborate more on these points...I'm out the door to work in a few.
Bonefish wrote:And again with this check engine light: would it be worth it to take the car to a mechanics shop and see if they can give me a diagnostic? I know it won't be free, but would it be worth it? Should I call around and ask how much they'll charge? what's reasonable?
This is why I bought my own scanner. Many shops will charge you around $40-$50 per scan, with the exception of a few parts stores. Granted, the shops can scan a whole lot more than just OBD-II stuff, which is most related to emissions, but in many cases your own scanner will save you money.
Bonefish wrote:Which leads to, yet another quesiton, one that Joe might be better prepared to answer. Let's say i was out at a bar, right, and i had a few drinks(like 4 beers or so), and i'm scared to drive cuz i think i might be drunk. Last time, i just waited for a while untill i felt more sober, and then drove. But, well, is there anyway to get a breathalyzer test done BEFORE i drive, to see if i'm too fucked up? I've been doing a fairly good job of not drinking too much when i go out, maybe a beer or two over the course of a few hours, but i'm curious about the legalities here.
I don't know what the cut-off level for blood alcohol concentration is in North Carolina. In Michigan, .08% is the point where you're over the limit. But here's a basic break-down of alcohol consumption: The body absorbs alcohol at the rate of about .02% per hour, per drink. This generally has nothing to do with how "drunk" you feel when you first start drinking. Your body metabolizes alcohol at a rate of about .015% per hour. This means that if you drink 2 beers or 2 shots or 2 glasses of wine in rapid succession, you'll be at about a .04% Blood Alcohol Concentration (BAC). But it will take you about 3 hours to metabolize it out of your system. The rate of absorption and metabolism depends on your weight and your gender. Bone, you're male, so your rate of absorption is slightly slower and your rate of metabolism is slightly higher than women...slightly. For all intents and purposes, the .02%/.015% rule of thumb will apply. You can purchase your own url=http://www.amazon.com/Alcohawk-Digital- ... 835&sr=8-1]"breathalyzer" test[/url] if you want to be fairly safe. They're not as accurate as police-operated models, but are generally okay for your purposes. If you're out drinking for the evening, I don't recommend any more than 2 regular drinks (not doubles, tall beers, etc.). This is the safest way (other than not drinking at all) to make sure you're safe behind the wheel, and also not driving illegally.

Most drunk driving laws also have a provision for impairment, regardless of your BAC. Because alcohol affects people differently, especially when you consider their experience with drinking, some folks are not capable of operating a motor vehicle safely at a .04% or .06%. Further, commercial vehicle drivers usually have lower legal limits for operating their commercial vehicles. In Michigan, for example, a truck driver can't be above a .04%, and, if I recall correctly, cannot have consumed any alcohol for 8 hours prior to driving. But anyway, use good judgment, and don't drink a lot of you plan on driving.
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Bonefish wrote:Ok, so my check engine light came on. Again. And I stopped by autozone to get a free diagnostic(and i bought two quarts of 10w30 "high mileage" oil, to throw in the trunk and keep on hand, just in case), and they told me that their diagnostic machine wont work on my 94.
Yeah, they're right. You have an ODB-I connector, and they only have an ODB-II reader. This makes things slightly more complicated, but not untenably so.
  • Take a length of wire, or even a paper clip, and bend it into a U.
  • Turn the ignition to "On," but not to "start:" the engine shouldn't crank or run.
  • Take your U of metal and use it to short the two metal contacts on the top-right.

    What's going to happen is your Check Engine light will start blinking. It'll do so in patterns, like 2, pause, 1, long pause, 2, pause, 2. That sort of thing. Write those patterns down, and let us know what they are: these codes will tell us what's going on, but I assure you it's minor, and almost certainly an oxygen sensor or something like that. Still, worth the two minutes it takes to check it.
    Bonefish wrote:My engine oil seems good: the top dot on the dipstick is clean, so i guess i can add a bit of oil?
    As a rule, the "Safe" zone on the stick is about 1 quart, and you don't really have to fill until it's below the bottom mark. I usually play it safe and refill when I'm about half a quart low. Well, in the Jeep, I usually fill when I'm two quarts low, but that's because I'm stupid.
    Bonefish wrote:STILL haven't gotten my oil changed.
    Yeah, you really ought to. It's not unwise to make sure someone's there who's done it before, but yeah, I'd change that shit.
    Bonefish wrote:1) The carseems to "hiccup" or something. Like I feel a shudder when i let off the gas, or sometimes when I step on the pedal. Typically happens around 55-65mph. Is it just the car accelerating/slowing down, or what?
    Chances are, this is what your check engine light is talking about. Some sensor in your engine isn't working quite right, so it's sending the wrong information to the rest of the engine, and not doing exactly the right fuel/air mixture. Probably not a big deal [right now] but worth checking the check engine light for.
    Bonefish wrote:2) my speakers fade in and out.
    Good luck.
    Bonefish wrote:3) My uncle(well, one of 'em, but he's generally seen as "knowledgable" about cars) told me that my left rear strut/spring needs replacing. It squeeks badly sometimes, and if i apply pressure on the car, it's fairly obvious that the particular side i nquestion is a bit bouncier than the rest. He said it's like a $40 part, and fairly easy to replace. Is it?
    It can be. The mechanics of it aren't complex, but you'd need some tools you don't own, and things like jack stands, and definitely someone experienced to watch out for you. You also shouldn't bother doing only one: they wear in pairs, so replace them both. Given the possibility you could break something expensive - usually mounting points - it's also worth checking in to just having a local shop do it, until you've got a little more experience under your belt. But I think rear shocks are good fun, so definitely don't rule it out.

    I have a garage now, so you could just drive it up here and we could work on it... ;)
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3278 wrote:
Bonefish wrote:Ok, so my check engine light came on. Again. And I stopped by autozone to get a free diagnostic(and i bought two quarts of 10w30 "high mileage" oil, to throw in the trunk and keep on hand, just in case), and they told me that their diagnostic machine wont work on my 94.
Yeah, they're right. You have an ODB-I connector, and they only have an ODB-II reader. This makes things slightly more complicated, but not untenably so.
  • Take a length of wire, or even a paper clip, and bend it into a U.
  • Turn the ignition to "On," but not to "start:" the engine shouldn't crank or run.
  • Take your U of metal and use it to short the two metal contacts on the top-right.
What on the top right? Where?

Edit: Ok, found it. ?I tried to write down the codes as best i could.

Long blin, two fast blinks. Long Blink, two fast blinks. Long blink, pause, three fast blinks. Three Fast blinks, threee fast blinks. Then it starts back with the long and 2 fast.
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