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Birth Control

Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 2:40 pm
by Liniah
So, the kind of birth control pill I take now is illegal in the US. I will have to find something new in the near future. I'd like to hear what other people are using, if you like it or not, any side effects you've had, etc.

Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 4:11 pm
by Kitt
I started off on Seasonale, which is the one where you only get your period 4x/year. Worked wonderfully, but I wound up gaining a lot of weight that I couldn't lose, no matter what I did. Went back to the doctor, switched to Yaz, which is back to monthly periods, but it did WONDERS for cramps (the reason I was put on birth control to start out with - I would be curled up in a ball, weeping, even after taking Darvocet) and has made it possible for me to lose weight again.
I liked both for the most part, but Yaz is the clear winner. The only problem I've found is that my breasts got a crapload bigger. Before birth control, I was a 32C, which was hard enough to find. After Seasonale, I was looking for 32Ds, and now, with Yaz, I'm having a hell of a time staying in the Ds.
My suggestion is to avoid the patch and the ring like the plague. I know that some scientific studies have shown that both forms of birth control release extra hormones when they get hot. So hot showers, heavy excercise, sex, and anything else that would up your body temperature are prone to make them less effective in the long run. Additionally, I hear that you're supposed to remove the ring for sex...but that seems like a bad idea to me, because, let's say you drop it somewhere, or you forget about it, and now you don't have it in, and he didn't wear a condom because you're on birth control, and now you have a much higher risk of getting pregnant because you're not being pumped full of fake hormones...
Anyway, I do suggest trying Yaz if you think it's acceptable. It proclaims 3-day periods (mine still lasted 5, but whatever) and it really does work for PMS symptoms. Plus, it has a water pill built in, so you're less likely to put on water weight. w00t!

Re: Birth Control

Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 4:17 pm
by Brasky
Liniah wrote:So, the kind of birth control pill I take now is illegal in the US. I will have to find something new in the near future. I'd like to hear what other people are using, if you like it or not, any side effects you've had, etc.
It's not illegal, but in the states RU486 isn't really considered birth control.

Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 4:37 pm
by Ampere
Kitt wrote:The only problem I've found is that my breasts got a crapload bigger. Before birth control, I was a 32C, which was hard enough to find. After Seasonale, I was looking for 32Ds, and now, with Yaz, I'm having a hell of a time staying in the Ds.
There's SO much I could say here.
I'm ...just...I'm gonna leave it alone.

Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 4:39 pm
by Cash
Leave it alone, Amp. This thread is not meant for us. Play with mine to pass the time instead...

Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 4:40 pm
by Ampere
Cash wrote:Leave it alone, Amp. This thread is not meant for us. Play with mine to pass the time instead...

whuuut?

Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 5:40 pm
by Daki
Ampere wrote:
Cash wrote:Leave it alone, Amp. This thread is not meant for us. Play with mine to pass the time instead...

whuuut?
Cash has a pair of D's laying around to play with during quiet moments.

Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 6:49 pm
by Kai
Actually on my second injection of Depo Provera, working great. No bad side effects, extremely short and painless periods, no remembering to place patches, insert rings, or take pills.

Re: Birth Control

Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 7:09 pm
by zemookie
Liniah wrote:So, the kind of birth control pill I take now is illegal in the US. I will have to find something new in the near future. I'd like to hear what other people are using, if you like it or not, any side effects you've had, etc.
What are you currently on?
I have tried the Lo Oval pill and right now after 10 years am thinking of switching. It works pretty good but I am having some depression lately with it. But seeing if it is just depression or the pill causing it.
Did the ring. Which was so-so. Didn't like the rate of pregnancies while on it so I decided to stay away from it.

Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 7:58 pm
by Liniah
It's called Zyrona. It's the kind that has two hormones in it, which actually makes it less safe. It's illegal in the US because it causes the feminization of male fetuses (due to the extra hormone). It's the only birth control I have ever been on. I actually got put on it for dermatological reasons, but now I'm so used to being on birth control I think I'm going to stay on something. For most of my life I was very anti-birth control. I just couldn't bring myself to take a pill to make my body not work right. Anyway, the pills I'm on didn't give me any side effects, but there are a lot of possible ones that could be quite serious, such as blood clots. Hormone related migranes run in my family, so that's one reason I've been hesitant to go on the pill for many years. The pill that I'm on is really nice because it doesn't matter if you miss a day, like most pills. This pill works as a morning after pill as well, so if you forget it's no big deal.

Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 8:03 pm
by MissTeja
Ortho Tri-cyclen was HELL on my skin.

Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 8:07 pm
by jo_alex
I'm on Cilest and I never had any side effects with this one, but I think it's relatively low on hormones. It's marketed in US as OrthoCyclen.

Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 1:53 am
by Marius
Lin: Can you tell us what's actually in Zyrona? I'm having a real hard time finding it myself. Clearly it's ethinyl estradiol (so, like every common OCP used in the U.S.), but i can't figure out exactly what the other hormone is. It seems to be given as "cyproteronacetat," but I can't begin to figure how that translates.

[Edit:] Ok, I found it. And holy crap, Lin. It's a bloody anti-androgen. What a silly idea for a birth-control drug. I'd suggest you just take any normal OCP. You'll probably do fine. If you want to keep somewhat consistent, you can look for one with 35 mcg of estradiol (like Ortho-Cyclen), which is what you've been taking, but they're mostly around that range anyway.

Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 2:14 am
by Iantha
Best birth control in the world?

Vasectomies.

Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 2:36 am
by Szechuan
Iantha wrote:Best birth control in the world?

Vasectomies.
Abstinence. Vasectomies have been known to heal.

Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 4:14 am
by sinsual
Szechuan wrote:
Iantha wrote:Best birth control in the world?

Vasectomies.
Abstinence. Vasectomies have been known to heal.
As have tubal ligations...

Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 6:16 am
by Kai
Iantha wrote:Best birth control in the world?

Vasectomies.
Only for those who don't ever want any kids, not the rest of us who just don't want kids right now ;)

Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 8:53 am
by Liniah
Marius wrote:[Edit:] Ok, I found it. And holy crap, Lin. It's a bloody anti-androgen. What a silly idea for a birth-control drug. I'd suggest you just take any normal OCP. You'll probably do fine. If you want to keep somewhat consistent, you can look for one with 35 mcg of estradiol (like Ortho-Cyclen), which is what you've been taking, but they're mostly around that range anyway.
Well, like I said I was put on it because of my skin, not because I was looking for birth control. The birth control aspect was just a happy side effect.

Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 11:44 am
by Iantha
Kai wrote:
Iantha wrote:Best birth control in the world?

Vasectomies.
Only for those who don't ever want any kids, not the rest of us who just don't want kids right now ;)
Hey, nobody specified as to how permanent they wanted it to be. And while it is true that sometimes vasectomies grow back, it's a good option for many people. And no hormonal side effects, which is good for me, because I don't need help regulating my period or making cramping any better. I've found that as long as I get enough excersize my cramping is kept to a tolerable level.

Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 12:17 pm
by 3278
Seasonale and Depo: I've seen both put tons of weight on the girls taking them. One girl went on Depo, starting gaining weight like crazy, and went off it, which actually made it worse. She's never been the same again. [Which is really too bad.]

Ortho-Cyclen is the benchmark, I think, for girls over here. Some people have side effects, but you're basically taking it now, so I don't think you're likely to see a change.

Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 12:58 pm
by Liniah
I got really intrigued by the patch. Until recently I didn't even know it existed. I have a friend that's on it and she really likes it. There would be a lot less remembering required with the patch than with pills. (That's the best part of the pills I'm on now- doesn't matter if you forget sometimes.)

Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 2:42 pm
by Kai
Yeah that why I don't take pills, was fine when I was taking them to regulate my period, but I'm far too forgetful to remember to take a pill everyday at roughly the same time and trust that to assure I won't get pregnant. Side effects for everything is different for everyone, there are tons of horror stories for everything, but there's a lot of options and a good doctor will let you try them all out to find what fits best for you.

Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 3:01 pm
by Daki
Depo caused some severe side-effects in Jae when she was on it. In her case it was massive weight loss and almost premature onset of menapause.

Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 3:11 pm
by Ampere
With Depo, if you decide you want to have kids, you need to be off Depo for A WHILE before you start trying to get pregnant, else you have a higher risk than normal for birth defects.

Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 6:17 am
by Eliahad
We use the 'all natural' keep track of your temperature/mucus, be aware of your body method. No babies so far, so it's working for us.

Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 6:20 am
by Jeff Hauze
Dude...you never told me your wife was a silme monster? Details man, details!

Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 6:30 am
by Eliahad
Sorry! I thought everyone knew she was a blancmange.

(I meant to say 'vaginal mucus' but apparently I failed in my last post.)

Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 6:38 am
by Jeff Hauze
Dude...you never told me your wife was a...nevermind. I'm just going to shut up before I get in more trouble.

Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 7:31 am
by Eliahad
You're right, I never did tell you my wife is a woman. No, CE is right, I haven't fucked her yet. We've decided to wait for the second coming of the anti-christ, or the first of the four horsemen, which ever comes first.

Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 3:10 pm
by Angel
Iantha wrote:Best birth control in the world?

Vasectomies.
Lesbian oral sex. All the pleasure and you don't have to worry about getting pregnant.

Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 5:13 pm
by zemookie
Angel wrote:
Iantha wrote:Best birth control in the world?

Vasectomies.
Lesbian oral sex. All the pleasure and you don't have to worry about getting pregnant.
Any oral sex is safe ;)

Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 5:32 pm
by DV8
Oral sex linked to throat cancer
A virus contracted through oral sex is the cause of some throat cancers, say US scientists.

Wanna know more?

Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 5:54 pm
by zemookie
DV8 wrote:Oral sex linked to throat cancer
A virus contracted through oral sex is the cause of some throat cancers, say US scientists.

Wanna know more?

Well...you learn something new everyday :D

Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 11:02 pm
by Marius
Of course, we have a vaccine for that virus now.

Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 1:28 am
by Cash
Some STD's can also be transmitted through oral sex (although it's not as common as genital to genital contact)
Angel wrote:Lesbian oral sex. All the pleasure
My penis would like to protest! ;)

Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 2:20 pm
by Brasky
Angel wrote:
Iantha wrote:Best birth control in the world?

Vasectomies.
Lesbian oral sex. All the pleasure and you don't have to worry about getting pregnant.
I'm not sure that would work for me and Paul.

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 6:46 pm
by Liniah
Anyone use Copper-T IUD?

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 7:31 pm
by WillyGilligan
Right before my wife got pregnant with our third kid, yep.

Actually, we seem to not fit any statistics for these things. The failure rate is supposed to be 1/1000, but she thinks it wasn't put in properly.

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 9:44 pm
by Kitt
Liniah wrote:Anyone use Copper-T IUD?
One of my friends used that in high school. Not only did she still get pregnant, but she said it hurt like a bitch if she moved the wrong way.

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 10:04 am
by Moulsari
I have been using Yasmin for over a year. I started because of PMS and cramps too, they were becoming unbearable, and it definitely helped a lot with that. I also lose less blood, which used to be so bad that I'd get anaemic from time to time.

As far as moods go, I think it has made me less moody, but I also feel a bit more numb. Of course, that could also have something to do with the difference between high-powered New York City and sleepy Amsterdam. :) But it has definitely calmed me down.

As far as weight goes, I didn't see a difference, until recently when I started gaining a bit, and I do think it is related to the pill. Including in the breasts, which started out in the beginning too.

Generally, I'm pretty happy with it, and I have friends who like it too. I recommend giving it a try.