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BeCKS and SURGE

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2002 11:30 pm
by Atragon
Has BeCKS had SURGE integrated into it yet? I'm asking because NSRCG doesn't have the SURGE changeling option under the BeCKS character generation tab, unlike the Build Point system tab.

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2002 4:07 am
by Bethyaga
No.

I don't own any new books (nothing since MiTS), and I haven't played SR in a couple years.

Anyone else is welcome to take a shot at it, but there's nothing "official" at this point.

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2002 5:30 am
by Serious Paul
Serious Paul makes a note to Send Bethyaga books, now!

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2002 12:46 am
by Darth Sophia
Bethyaga wrote:No.

I don't own any new books (nothing since MiTS), and I haven't played SR in a couple years.

Anyone else is welcome to take a shot at it, but there's nothing "official" at this point.
You're giving up SR? :eek Say it ain't so! I love BeCKS; it is the ONLY way to create SR characters!

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2002 1:03 am
by Cash
The shadowrun and "re-edutcation" of Bethy is set for 2 weeks from now. Who's in? Method of insertion into Bethy's home:: FedEx box. :D

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2002 1:11 am
by Darth Sophia
Cash wrote:The shadowrun and "re-edutcation" of Bethy is set for 2 weeks from now. Who's in? Method of insertion into Bethy's home:: FedEx box. :D
I've been in worse boxes! FedEx me from Australia to Bethy's house. I might be mighty hungry on arrival, though... :kwyn

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2002 3:39 am
by Cash
then you'll want to talk to his kids for postal prices...

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2002 2:49 pm
by Ampere
NONONononononono...
See...SURGE never really happened. We don't talk about that here.
I don't know what you mean by SURGE either.
You must be mistaken...

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2002 2:53 pm
by Adam
SURGE? Wut? ;-)

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2002 3:18 pm
by Cash
It's a foul tasting soda.

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2002 5:16 pm
by Icepick
Darth Sophia wrote:
Bethyaga wrote:No.

I don't own any new books (nothing since MiTS), and I haven't played SR in a couple years.

Anyone else is welcome to take a shot at it, but there's nothing "official" at this point.
You're giving up SR? :eek Say it ain't so! I love BeCKS; it is the ONLY way to create SR characters!
Booya, BeCKS rocks. If you give up SR, the sith WILL kill you. It will be the most painful and horrible death you will ever experience, and you will NEVER forget it. Reincarnation is a bitch.

Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2002 11:31 pm
by Darth Sophia
Icepick wrote:
Darth Sophia wrote:
Bethyaga wrote:No.

I don't own any new books (nothing since MiTS), and I haven't played SR in a couple years.

Anyone else is welcome to take a shot at it, but there's nothing "official" at this point.
You're giving up SR? :eek Say it ain't so! I love BeCKS; it is the ONLY way to create SR characters!
Booya, BeCKS rocks. If you give up SR, the sith WILL kill you. It will be the most painful and horrible death you will ever experience, and you will NEVER forget it. Reincarnation is a bitch.
LOL!

Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2002 3:13 am
by Bethyaga
Sadly, I have only a limited amount of gaming time. And truth to tell, SR is really just too damn complicated for me to take seriously anymore. I know that sounds silly from the guy who made SR character creation about 5 times more complicated, but it's true. Even back when I was really really good with SR and had all the rules memorized, it still wound up every Saturday that a five minute combat would take up three hours of a five hour session. Tactical combat is just not that damn important to me. (Although surprisingly, I still dig D&D3e. It may be massively complex, but somehow it plays fast for me.)

I keep waiting for Adam to produce me some rules-lite cyber-fantasy rules so I can play SR in Fudge or Tri-Stat or something. ;)

Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2002 4:37 am
by Serious Paul
Remind me to smack you Bethyaga.

Better yet, instead remind me to come to your house to game. 3 hours? Hellz no! One of these days I can show you my rules light version of SR as it is. Ask 32. It rocks.

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2002 2:44 am
by Icepick
Ah, there's your problem, you're only doing 5 hour sessions. Once you do 72 hour sessions, you never want to go back. We ran entire stories at a time, not just sessions. We happened to take a couple of small breaks for pizzas and sodas, and one guy did a bit of crystal meth(but that's neither here nor there), and when we did, we'd do exp then and there.

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2002 2:56 am
by Bethyaga
Well, for the record, Serious Paul is an unforgivable bastard.

I've had BeCKS v2.0 drawn up for months now, but not polished. And now Paul's gone and sucked me into a fucking game and rekindled my interest. Hopefully, BeCKS 2 will be ready to share sooner than later.

Although it still won't deal with Otaku or SURGE.

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2002 4:53 am
by Atragon
Bethyaga wrote:Although it still won't deal with Otaku or SURGE.
SURGE isn't that hard to add... :) Just do it ala buildpoint system and make them edges/flaws for starting characters. :)

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2002 5:08 am
by Bethyaga
Thank you.

And somewhere along the line, I talked through an process for Otaku with someone. I think it was on DSF, but I've never been able to find it since. I think I may have dreamed it.

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2002 3:59 pm
by Adam
I remember it. Now, finding the thread may be trickier... especially as it may have been on the old forums.

How about this: http://forums.dumpshock.com/ubb//Forum2 ... 01241.html

and this: http://forums.dumpshock.com/ubb//Forum9 ... 00024.html

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2002 7:08 pm
by Bethyaga
Adam wrote:I remember it. Now, finding the thread may be trickier... especially as it may have been on the old forums.

How about this: http://forums.dumpshock.com/ubb//Forum2 ... 01241.html

and this: http://forums.dumpshock.com/ubb//Forum9 ... 00024.html
THANK YOU!!!

I had the second one already, but for some reason, I never could turn up that first link.

Thankyouthankyouthankyou!

Thus completes the full history of BeCKS development:

Old Bulldrek: The initial seeds of BeCKS are sown.
Brown DSF: Most of the working features of BeCKS are hammered out (with much thanks to Thanee for seeing it all before I did)
Old Bulldrek: The first polished version of BeCKS
Brown DSF: Original Q&A on BeCKS in TSS
Brown DSF: The latest Q&A for development of BeCKS v2.0

I feel so much better now.

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2002 7:12 pm
by Icepick
Wow, brown DSF, taking me back to the days before it was legal for me to drink...