Maybe the Amish.Marius wrote:Heh heh. You're a frickin' communist.Buzzed wrote:Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: 2.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.72
More specifically, they're speaking of the British party named the Liberal Democrats, who are, rather to my liking, reasonably conservative. Not quite conservative enough, but then, who is?Liberal and Conservative Democrats are European terms, I believe. They are not referring to groups within the US Party called the Democrats.I think they are a bit off with the dot that they place for Liberal Democrats. They got that dot confused with Conservative Democrats. The site obviously just doesn't want to admit that a large chunk of democrats are conservative.
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Let's see if I can make this work...
And a close up of the cluttered region (which I started just prior to realizing I could move names... they were on top of each other originally - first pic has been edited)
Maybe I'll add in the Libertarian/Authoritarian labels and stuff later. If people want them and stuff.
And a close up of the cluttered region (which I started just prior to realizing I could move names... they were on top of each other originally - first pic has been edited)
Maybe I'll add in the Libertarian/Authoritarian labels and stuff later. If people want them and stuff.
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<Reika> What a glorious way to die.
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<Reika> Worse, a paladin.
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<Reika> What a glorious way to die.
<Jackal> What are you, Klingon?
<Reika> Worse, a paladin.
<Jackal> We're all fucked.
By the way, I took the quiz again, and came in at 6.38, -2.3.
Then I took it one last time, and instead of answering the ambiguous wording of the questions, I answered to the issue the question was addressing. Came in at 8.75, -2.3. I figure my actual score is probably between the two, closer to the second.
Then I took it one last time, and instead of answering the ambiguous wording of the questions, I answered to the issue the question was addressing. Came in at 8.75, -2.3. I figure my actual score is probably between the two, closer to the second.
There is then a need to guard against a temptation to overstate the economic evils of our own age, and to ignore the existence of similar, or worse, evils in earlier ages. Even though some exaggeration may, for the time, stimulate others, as well as ourselves, to a more intense resolve that the present evils should no longer exist, but it is not less wrong and generally it is much more foolish to palter with truth for good than for a selfish cause. The pessimistic descriptions of our own age, combined with the romantic exaggeration of the happiness of past ages must tend to setting aside the methods of progress, the work of which, if slow, is yet solid, and lead to the hasty adoption of others of greater promise, but which resemble the potent medicines of a charlatan, and while quickly effecting a little good sow the seeds of widespread and lasting decay. This impatient insincerity is an evil only less great than the moral torpor which can endure, that we with our modern resources and knowledge should look contentedly at the continued destruction of all that is worth having. There is an evil and an extreme impatience as well as an extreme patience with social ills.
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That's nice. You already made me resize the image a few times trying to keep you from going off the end while still leaving the rest large enough to be useful. Now you want me to add on an exta 1.75 to the side? Get me more width, this 800x600 just won't cut it...Marius wrote:By the way, I took the quiz again, and came in at 6.38, -2.3.
Then I took it one last time, and instead of answering the ambiguous wording of the questions, I answered to the issue the question was addressing. Came in at 8.75, -2.3. I figure my actual score is probably between the two, closer to the second.
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<Reika> What a glorious way to die.
<Jackal> What are you, Klingon?
<Reika> Worse, a paladin.
<Jackal> We're all fucked.
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<Reika> What a glorious way to die.
<Jackal> What are you, Klingon?
<Reika> Worse, a paladin.
<Jackal> We're all fucked.
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Here are the results when I plugged Bush's answers in:
Economic Left/Right: 7.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.49
I forced myself to always select the Strongly options.
These results show my view of Bush as being roughly the same for Left/Right but my view is a lower value for Social Libertarian/Authoritarian.
Economic Left/Right: 7.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.49
I forced myself to always select the Strongly options.
These results show my view of Bush as being roughly the same for Left/Right but my view is a lower value for Social Libertarian/Authoritarian.
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Yeah. There are a couple of people on the board in my quadrant. According to the site, however, there are no international figures in my quadrant.Instant Cash wrote:Wow, Bonefish (Ghotty) is all by his lonesome.
No U.S. candidates are in my quadrant or in Ghotty's. There are international figures in there with Bone. Namely, Hussein, Mugabe, Arafat, Chirac, and the Pope. Way to go Bonefish!
There is then a need to guard against a temptation to overstate the economic evils of our own age, and to ignore the existence of similar, or worse, evils in earlier ages. Even though some exaggeration may, for the time, stimulate others, as well as ourselves, to a more intense resolve that the present evils should no longer exist, but it is not less wrong and generally it is much more foolish to palter with truth for good than for a selfish cause. The pessimistic descriptions of our own age, combined with the romantic exaggeration of the happiness of past ages must tend to setting aside the methods of progress, the work of which, if slow, is yet solid, and lead to the hasty adoption of others of greater promise, but which resemble the potent medicines of a charlatan, and while quickly effecting a little good sow the seeds of widespread and lasting decay. This impatient insincerity is an evil only less great than the moral torpor which can endure, that we with our modern resources and knowledge should look contentedly at the continued destruction of all that is worth having. There is an evil and an extreme impatience as well as an extreme patience with social ills.
And note also that the origin is set for Brits. See how all of the Democratic presidential candidates are right of the origin (except the two really crazy ones)? In America the origin would be farther to the right.Salvation122 wrote:You'll note that the board conservatives are a lot closer to the origin than the board liberals. Fuckin' hippies.
There is then a need to guard against a temptation to overstate the economic evils of our own age, and to ignore the existence of similar, or worse, evils in earlier ages. Even though some exaggeration may, for the time, stimulate others, as well as ourselves, to a more intense resolve that the present evils should no longer exist, but it is not less wrong and generally it is much more foolish to palter with truth for good than for a selfish cause. The pessimistic descriptions of our own age, combined with the romantic exaggeration of the happiness of past ages must tend to setting aside the methods of progress, the work of which, if slow, is yet solid, and lead to the hasty adoption of others of greater promise, but which resemble the potent medicines of a charlatan, and while quickly effecting a little good sow the seeds of widespread and lasting decay. This impatient insincerity is an evil only less great than the moral torpor which can endure, that we with our modern resources and knowledge should look contentedly at the continued destruction of all that is worth having. There is an evil and an extreme impatience as well as an extreme patience with social ills.
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The board origin is off. Here, I'll show you where the center is...Salvation122 wrote:You'll note that the board conservatives are a lot closer to the origin than the board liberals. Fuckin' hippies.
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<Reika> What a glorious way to die.
<Jackal> What are you, Klingon?
<Reika> Worse, a paladin.
<Jackal> We're all fucked.
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IRC Fun:
<Reika> What a glorious way to die.
<Jackal> What are you, Klingon?
<Reika> Worse, a paladin.
<Jackal> We're all fucked.
hey Ang, could you send me the data sheet? I really want to see what a factor rotation gives me.
There is then a need to guard against a temptation to overstate the economic evils of our own age, and to ignore the existence of similar, or worse, evils in earlier ages. Even though some exaggeration may, for the time, stimulate others, as well as ourselves, to a more intense resolve that the present evils should no longer exist, but it is not less wrong and generally it is much more foolish to palter with truth for good than for a selfish cause. The pessimistic descriptions of our own age, combined with the romantic exaggeration of the happiness of past ages must tend to setting aside the methods of progress, the work of which, if slow, is yet solid, and lead to the hasty adoption of others of greater promise, but which resemble the potent medicines of a charlatan, and while quickly effecting a little good sow the seeds of widespread and lasting decay. This impatient insincerity is an evil only less great than the moral torpor which can endure, that we with our modern resources and knowledge should look contentedly at the continued destruction of all that is worth having. There is an evil and an extreme impatience as well as an extreme patience with social ills.
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All I know is that I am chillin with the Dali Lama.Marius wrote: Yeah. There are a couple of people on the board in my quadrant. According to the site, however, there are no international figures in my quadrant.
I want to shoot one of these Church kids and ask them "Where is your god now!"
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All I know is I'm totally centrist.Instant Cash wrote:All I know is that I am chillin with the Dali Lama.Marius wrote: Yeah. There are a couple of people on the board in my quadrant. According to the site, however, there are no international figures in my quadrant.
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<Reika> What a glorious way to die.
<Jackal> What are you, Klingon?
<Reika> Worse, a paladin.
<Jackal> We're all fucked.
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<Reika> What a glorious way to die.
<Jackal> What are you, Klingon?
<Reika> Worse, a paladin.
<Jackal> We're all fucked.
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Oye. This is Marius.
I want to do some stat analysis on the scores, so I want information.
If you've posted scores, could you also post (or send to me, if you're private) your age, gender, and location?
To avoid adding a lots of hard to find posts, you can use this post by logging in as Data Collector (password: member) and editing to add your information to the bottom of the list. Also feel free to suggest other variables you'd like to see.
Marius: 25, male, Pennsylvania USA
Toryu: 26, male, Hannover, Germany.
Johnny the Bull: 21, male, Brisbane, Australia.
Serious Paul: 29, male, Michigan USA
Uncle Joseph: 29, male, Michigan USA
Reika: 27, female, Woodridge NY USA
Angel: 20, female, Vienna Austria
Anguirel: 24, male, Syracuse NY USA
Szechuan: 20, male, Moncton NB, Canada
Salvation: 19, male, Memphis TN, USA.
I want to do some stat analysis on the scores, so I want information.
If you've posted scores, could you also post (or send to me, if you're private) your age, gender, and location?
To avoid adding a lots of hard to find posts, you can use this post by logging in as Data Collector (password: member) and editing to add your information to the bottom of the list. Also feel free to suggest other variables you'd like to see.
Marius: 25, male, Pennsylvania USA
Toryu: 26, male, Hannover, Germany.
Johnny the Bull: 21, male, Brisbane, Australia.
Serious Paul: 29, male, Michigan USA
Uncle Joseph: 29, male, Michigan USA
Reika: 27, female, Woodridge NY USA
Angel: 20, female, Vienna Austria
Anguirel: 24, male, Syracuse NY USA
Szechuan: 20, male, Moncton NB, Canada
Salvation: 19, male, Memphis TN, USA.
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My responses
Economic Left/Right: 4.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.18
Johnny the Bull: 21; Male; Brisbane, Australia
I expected these kind of results. At heart I am an entrepreneur, so a freer market is better as far as I am concerned except to curb any extreme excesses by corporations. If there was a question based on succession of estates, I think I'd be closer to 2.1 on the economic left/right scales due to my views on it.
Economic Left/Right: 4.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.18
Johnny the Bull: 21; Male; Brisbane, Australia
I expected these kind of results. At heart I am an entrepreneur, so a freer market is better as far as I am concerned except to curb any extreme excesses by corporations. If there was a question based on succession of estates, I think I'd be closer to 2.1 on the economic left/right scales due to my views on it.
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I consider succession of estates one of the worst leakages in an economy. I want to plug it by taxing all assests (aside from family dwelling, car and life insurance payments) of an estate to any single person over $500k 100%.mrmooky wrote:Why 2.1?Johnny the Bull wrote:If there was a question based on succession of estates, I think I'd be closer to 2.1 on the economic left/right scales due to my views on it.
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When you're a liberal,
You're a liberal all the way
From your first peace protest
To your last dyin' day.
When you're a liberal,
If the voting split hits the fan,
You got judges around,
You're a protesting man!
You're never alone,
You're never disconnected!
You're home with your own:
When conservatives're expected,
You're well protected!
Then you are set
With a capital L,
Which you'll never forget
Till they cart you away.
When you're a liberal,
You stay a liberal!
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That's actually not a bad thing to track. Perhaps, if it makes sense for a given individual, Marius could also go for where a person was born and/or raised in addition to current residence. In my case all three locations are the same, but if someone has moved recently or whatever, they're more likely to have views in tune with where they were than where they go (unless that's why they moved). Of possibly more significant interest, whether you were raised in a city, suburb or in the country, along with the size of your school. I'd be suburb, and graduating class size was about 1,000 I think, though elementary (K-4) was split amongst three schools, and middle school (5-8) was split in two.Cash wrote:Ray:: Didn't you used to live in Dallas?
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_Patience said: Ang, you are truly a font of varied and useful information.
IRC Fun:
<Reika> What a glorious way to die.
<Jackal> What are you, Klingon?
<Reika> Worse, a paladin.
<Jackal> We're all fucked.
_Patience said: Ang, you are truly a font of varied and useful information.
IRC Fun:
<Reika> What a glorious way to die.
<Jackal> What are you, Klingon?
<Reika> Worse, a paladin.
<Jackal> We're all fucked.
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Zang makes a valid point there. Location is quite an important factor in the test. There are some very country-specific questions, and a person may answer them differently depending on location, e. g. "Is the tax rate too high?". Kinda makes a difference if you're living in the US, or, say, Sweden.Anguirel wrote:That's actually not a bad thing to track. Perhaps, if it makes sense for a given individual, Marius could also go for where a person was born and/or raised in addition to current residence. In my case all three locations are the same, but if someone has moved recently or whatever, they're more likely to have views in tune with where they were than where they go (unless that's why they moved).Cash wrote:Ray:: Didn't you used to live in Dallas?
While the location factor is of relevance, tracking where someone has lived may be a bit tricky to implement.
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Neither did I. Silly Brits.Ancient History wrote:I didn't think I was a Leftist or a Libertarian.
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I took it twice, just to be sure.
1st test:
Economic Left/Right: -3.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.64
2nd test:
Economic Left/Right: -3.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.21
3rd test:
Economic Left/Right: -3.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.59
First reaction: Holy shit...
Second reaction: This test is, well, biased. I feel the wordage is ambiguous in several questions. I also agonized over some questions (Agree or Disagree), as their answers merit deeper analysis.
EDIT: JongWK, 23, male, Montevideo (Uruguay).
1st test:
Economic Left/Right: -3.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.64
2nd test:
Economic Left/Right: -3.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.21
3rd test:
Economic Left/Right: -3.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.59
First reaction: Holy shit...
Second reaction: This test is, well, biased. I feel the wordage is ambiguous in several questions. I also agonized over some questions (Agree or Disagree), as their answers merit deeper analysis.
EDIT: JongWK, 23, male, Montevideo (Uruguay).
My country is the world, and my religion is to do good.
-Thomas Paine
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Now how the fuck am I going to classify Uruguay?
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Marius wrote:Now how the fuck am I going to classify Uruguay?
European wannabes wishing they weren't stuck between Argentina and Brazil?
Maybe, but Latin/South America could make for a better entry.Salvation122 wrote:I'd suggest [Other], myself.
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Economic left/right: .88
Social libertarian/authoritarian: -1.49
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